Cemetery Dance discussion thread

[T-Dogz_AK47]

OK, I think I got it working!

I have several remarques created by Glenn Chadbourne, but I will post just one here for now...

This remarque was created in my S/L edition of The Secretary of Dreams Volume 1:

[Br!an]

There is a Remarkable Remarques thread. You might also want to create a Collections page, and put your remarques in there.

For some reason it won't allow me to upload any images. When I press the insert image tab, it asks me to enter a URL address and does not give me the option to upload an image from my own library...

You can upload images from your computer in the Gallery. http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery You can then link them to the thread. Or you can link from somewhere else.

[Merlin1958]

I personally don't have any Chadbourne favorites as I'm not a fan. I'm one of those that cringes. It just seemed logical there would be a dedicated repository since his work is such a major component of many members' collections here. Maybe T-Dogz_AK47, or anyone, could start the thread with some of their personally commissioned remarques. Consolidate and display some of his best works so everyone can see his range.

Bad penny, probably has the most extensive collection of Glens' work in his collection thread.

[Merlin1958]

OK, I think I got it working!

I have several remarques created by Glenn Chadbourne, but I will post just one here for now...

This remarque was created in my S/L edition of The Secretary of Dreams Volume 1:

Oh, very nice, Mr. T-Dog!!! Awesome remarque, I have Glen Remarques in each of my SOD's as well.

[Br!an]

Bad penny, probably has the most extensive collection of Glens' work in his collection thread.

"Probably"??? I'd say more like definitely.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...tion-Bad-Penny

[Roseannebarr]

I think this has been asked before... are you Glenn Chadbourne or related to Glenn?? Just curious. Thanks! Glen

Erm... That's the first time I have been asked if I am Glenn Chadbourne or even related to him.

The answer to both questions is.... No I am not.

Strange that you should ask such a question though... as if in order to champion his artwork (which is superb) I must be either Glenn himself or related to him...

No harm or foul intended. You had numerous posts about his work.and you stated how much you like his work and you defend him pretty much when people disparage or criticize. It was just a curiosity question. I probably should of asked by pm. Instead. You really like his stuff!

I have limited funds and prefer to use it on missing s/l of kings work that I still need. And I am not related to king. Even though I asked my wife to try and date joe hill and leave me for a while so she could a few of my books signed!

[Br!an]

Even though I asked my wife to try and date joe hill and leave me for a while so she could a few of my books signed!

Most people probably think you're kidding.

[Sir_Boomme]

Bad penny, probably has the most extensive collection of Glens' work in his collection thread.

"Probably"??? I'd say more like definitely.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...tion-Bad-Penny

what amazes me.... isn't Bad Penny's collection of Glen Remarq. - It's the fact that Glenn has anytime to do any books for Cemetery Dance or anyone else with all the books he does for Bad Penny. I mean... just keeping up with Penny requests must be a full time job.

[Merlin1958]

Bad penny, probably has the most extensive collection of Glens' work in his collection thread.

"Probably"??? I'd say more like definitely.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...tion-Bad-Penny

what amazes me.... isn't Bad Penny's collection of Glen Remarq. - It's the fact that Glenn has anytime to do any books for Cemetery Dance or anyone else with all the books he does for Bad Penny. I mean... just keeping up with Penny requests must be a full time job.

LOL Very true, but then again, Glen is a freaking machine. He can just crank them out and the quality is always there. Also, he is huge fan of King so often his drawings are very intuitive.

[Patrick]

OK, I think I got it working!

I have several remarques created by Glenn Chadbourne, but I will post just one here for now...

This remarque was created in my S/L edition of The Secretary of Dreams Volume 1:

Oh, very nice, Mr. T-Dog!!! Awesome remarque, I have Glen Remarques in each of my SOD's as well.

I like that one a LOT!

[webstar1000]

The only problem with Glenn... is there is a lot of Glenn. However, anyone that does not think his work is really good (especially the color which he has mastered) should just look at the post over this. Just me 2 cents

[thegunslinger41]

I agree. Glenn's work is superb. Art is subjective and each artist has his own style. You either like an artist's style or you don't...and if you DO like his style, there may be a point when too much of something can be a bad thing. As the old saying goes "everything in moderation." It is my opinion that it would be better if there was a healthy mix of illustrators involved in King's work.


Gabriel

The only problem with Glenn... is there is a lot of Glenn. However, anyone that does not think his work is really good (especially the color which he has mastered) should just look at the post over this. Just me 2 cents

[mikeC]

I would have rather had a SOD3 with a new/unpublished story than all these new re-issues.

[Dolso]

That's actually one of the many things i like about Glen - you can explain what you want and within 3 to 5 days you have a scan of the piece and a week or so later it shows up in the mail! Not too many artists that can turn it around that quickly...

[Bev Vincent]

Faster than that, sometimes -- when we were doing the Illustrated Stephen King Trivia Book, I'd send him three or four concepts and he'd have the results turned around in a few hours.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

When I collaborated with Glenn on my story "Marvin's Retirement" we chatted about the character "Lilja" just for a few minutes. It was like Glenn could see right into my imagination. Two days later "Lilja" was a reality on paper.

A fantastic gift Glenn has.

Ralph Mulleins

[MandaBunny]

Warning: opinionated comments follow......

....anyone that does not think his work is really good (especially the color which he has mastered) should just look at the post over this....

I guess appreciation of mastery of color is as subjective as it is with any art. Some see it, some don't.

......You either like an artist's style or you don't...and if you DO like his style, there may be a point when too much of something can be a bad thing. As the old saying goes "everything in moderation." It is my opinion that it would be better if there was a healthy mix of illustrators involved in King's work.
Gabriel

Well stated. I love Reese's but I also don't eat them so much that I get sick of them.

I really haven't seen many remarques that I'd want in my books, I typically wouldn't pay more to get one but if one showed up in a book I wouldn't return it. Of the ones I've seen, I think that Whelan's and Lee's are my personal favorites. I might even pay for one of those if the price wasn't too outrageous (another subjective item).

I did see this one by Chadbourne which TwistedNadine posted in the RRs thread that I thought was probably the best work I've seen from him. Maybe it's the anatomy which I think is usually one of his weakest points but here it's well rendered.

Couple more:
Bag of Bones (love this one):

It's easy, we all have our opinions and standards.
A handful of his paintings are decent enough, but the pen and ink stuff looks like over-detailed high school level art. That's why I ended up selling my S/L copy of The Dark Man

(emphasis added).

At risk of being raked over the coals by saying anything that may be construed as negative and not dripping with praise, here goes. I'll say that I completely agree with Scoogs, most of it - b/w and color - takes me back to my high school art class and the pieces that students submitted to have included in the yearbook.

Faster than that, sometimes -- when we were doing the Illustrated Stephen King Trivia Book, I'd send him three or four concepts and he'd have the results turned around in a few hours.

When I read that he can crank out these things within hours of a request, it all kind of makes more sense to me. This is probably great for the publisher, it's just not what I would expect on/in an expensive volume. He does have a talent to convey his thoughts quickly but to me it shows in the results.

I'm not trying to be inflammatory with these comments, I'm just trying to convey my point of view when looking at different artists and their work. As has been stated, it's all subjective and there are things that cannot be explained away or into existence with something like art. Like someone said earlier, some people feel King isn't a good writer and you can't make someone change their minds (until you remind them about Shawshank and Stand By Me). There are my two cents which are only with $0.00 in some people's opinion.

[Brian James Freeman]

takes me back to my high school art class and the pieces that students submitted to have included in the yearbook.

I'm actually kind of impressed that you and your classmates were doing this level of detail in high school! Could you post some of your artwork you've done to compare?

Brian

P.S. And I don't mean that as snark or anything. As others here will attest, we're always looking for new artists to work with and if you feel you or your former classmates are better artists than the ones we work with, post some samples and let's see what we can do.

[Shannon]

"We're always looking for new artists to work with ..."

*ahem* rachelreadman

[Brian James Freeman]

"We're always looking for new artists to work with ..."

*ahem* rachelreadman

A good example of someone from this message board who sent us some excellent artwork samples for consideration!

Brian

[MandaBunny]

It certainly wasn't my scribbles that got into the yearbook, I am artistically declined but I can still appreciate art - art that I find appealing that others may not. I was just trying to explain my position, I'm not trying to sway opinion to my "side" because that would be a frivolous effort. If there's only one group of people on here stating how much they love something with no counterbalance then it's a one-sided opinion of what is used very often. Obviously, there are people on both sides of any discussion but when people are made to feel like they can't express their opinion because they are attacked by more vocal people it throws undue weight to one side and what is considered by many as a 'fan favorite' may not apply as much as it's perceived because some aren't willing to put their thoughts out there because they're afraid of recriminating comments, or just aren't around to say anything in such a public form. I'm not trying to provoke you by stating my opinion and supporting others with similar views. I've noticed you're very patient with all of us and based on the tone of your comment I've touched a nerve and I'm sorry you didn't like my post. Obviously, Glenn is one of your favorite artists or you wouldn't use his work so much in your productions. That's fine but with a market this small, using the same artist frequently only makes the saturation happen that much more quickly. Especially when multiple publishers are using the same artists.
I think that Scoogs' "over-detailed" description was the part with which I most agree. Glenn uses a lot of lines in some of his pieces, particularly some of the b/w pieces and it's just way too busy and distracting for me. This amount of detail was not found in the high-school level art. Sometimes subtlety is better than too much detail - this is my opinion. There is a lot of detail in the Bag of Bones remarque but the details blend well, at least from the shot that TW posted.
The first two pieces on this page of The Collector's site are just two examples where there's too much going on for me, obviously not for others who like his work.

http://skcollector.com/galleries/darkman.html

[Brian James Freeman]

It certainly wasn't my scribbles that got into the yearbook

That's too bad. I thought we had another artist here on the board! Well, definitely consider sending any of the talented artists you know our way. We're always looking!

Best,
Brian

[subie09lega]

I hope that forum member harrison ryan submitted some pieces to you, he seems to have some talent to be shared.

[Brian James Freeman]

I'm sorry you didn't like my post.

Nope, it's about a million miles from the harshest thing posted in this thread. In fact, it might be the nicest "I don't like something" post in the history of this thread. We'd have to check the records to know for sure.

I was just hoping we had another artist to try. We're always looking. We've featured more than 500 artists in our books and magazines over the years. The number might be higher, it's been a long time since we tried to estimate the count.

I read everything that is posted here and take it all into consideration. Of course, those who post here represent a very small percentage of our customers, so I also have to take that into consideration.

So it's all good. I think everyone should post their thoughts. Someone might hit on an idea that proves very helpful or useful for future projects, and I don't care where a good idea comes from if it's helpful.

Brian

[Brian James Freeman]

By the way, in case it's helpful to the discussion, here's the list of artists who have worked on our Stephen King books over the years:

From a Buick 8 -- Bernie Wrightson
The Secretary of Dreams Volume One -- Glenn Chadbourne
Blockade Billy -- Glen Orbik (cover) and Alex McVey (interiors)
The Secretary of Dreams Volume Two -- Glenn Chadbourne
Full Dark, No Stars -- Tomislav Tikulin (covers); Glenn Chadbourne, Jill Bauman, Alan M. Clark, and Vincent Chong (interiors)
It: The 25th Anniversary Special Edition -- Glen Orbik (covers), Alan M. Clark & Erin S. Wells (interiors)
The Dark Man: An Illustrated Poem -- Glenn Chadbourne
Doctor Sleep -- Vincent Chong (cover and color interiors), Erin S. Wells (B&W interiors), Glenn Chadbourne (endpapers)
Carrie -- Tomislav Tikulin

Brian