I never realized how badly I needed to see Jack and Locke fight with lightsabers until now...
I never realized how badly I needed to see Jack and Locke fight with lightsabers until now...
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It is awesome!
I had no idea either. I'm just glad the good folks over at cracked.com knew it even though we didn't.
It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
A whole lot more than riches and muscle.
The hands of the many must join as one.
And together we'll cross the river.
Puscifer, "The Humbling River"
So I just finished the last episode not 5 minutes ago, and I have to say I'm having mixed feelings about the ending ... it was very satisfying on an emotional level, but there were far too many things left unanswered and far too many plot holes, I feel a bit cheated ...
I'll post in here once I collect my thoughts a bit more.
I had a dream last night about Lost and some kind of bonus stuff they were gonna have on the DVDs. But instead of it being like a commercial I was on the show living it. That's about all I remember of it.
I think the toughest thing initially is wrapping your mind around the fact that the show isn't what we thought it was. I think my full series rewatch will prove to be very satisfying, knowing the things that I know now.
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I'm planning on rewatching the entire show as soon as the season 6 box set becomes available.
The thing is, I'm sure that both A) The writer's strike and B) the knowledge that they were in way over their heads in certain aspects of the show led them to ignore them and the answers to them during the latter portion of the show - they gambled on the fact that we would be so invested in the ending emotionally that we would overlook those gaping plot holes.
What was the deal with the Linus/Widmore feud ? Wasn't it clearly stated that the latter could never return to the island ? Yet he shows up, giving us a 5 second explanation that "Jacob made him see the error of his ways." Did Jacob bend the rules or allow Widmore to break the rules so that he could return to the island ?
Exactly how is Desmond considered a 'weapon' ? And also - a literal cork keeping the island together ? Really ?
Linus stated that the black smoke monster's purpose was to "protect the temple", implying that he killed those close to discovering it, right ? If so , why did he kill Mr. Eko ? Or the characters in the first season ? Further more, if MIB only needed the candidates alive, why didn't he kill the rest right off the bat ?
What was the purpose of the temple and the people residing in it ?
If Jacob is the protector of the island , and the MIB the reincarnation of evil, then why did the former essentially arrange the mass murder of everyone in the Dharma Initiative ?
These are all the questions that spring immediately to mind, although I'm sure I have plenty more stored away somewhere.
Exactly, feev. Exactly. Your post contains questions that needed to be answered, questions that we deserved answers to.
In the final season, Darlton seemed to focus more on the emotions of the characters and seemed to spend the entirety of season 6 building up to the reveal thatSpoiler:. It was a really cool twist, but to focus more than 50% of the season "over there" doesn't feel worth it to me.
I feel that the season 5 finale had so many cool set-ups and reveals and different directions to take the final season, but a lot of them were wasted.
Some issues I had with season 6:
- Way too much time spent in the FS, not enough on-island time
- Lack of answers/poorly given explanations
- Too much time spent on MIB/Jacob
- The Light. That's all I have to say about that.
- Some characters felt "wasted" and cast aside
- I realize that this was the FS season, but would a little more flashbacks hurt? Claire alone on the Island, Jacob coming to Widmore, Egyptian references (I still think Jacob should've been from Egyptian times), etc.
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The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
First of all, it is vey hard to separate you from each other, Ricky and Shizzie.
I feel a little tired and I think I have flu. Maybe that is the reason, but everytime you post after each other, for one moment I think Ricky is talking to himself.
I thought(as much as I could after the strange finale) he was a passive weapon. He would go down there and take the cork out, and make MIB vulnarable and mortal.
28 in 23 (?)!!!!
63 in '23!!!!!!!!!!
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The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
Lindelof and Cuse have stated that the "Help Me" voice in "The Man Behind the Curtain" was indeed the MIB. I'm too lazy to google the quote, but it's out there.
A nice little tidbit for you all.
In 'Across The Sea', Jacob moved his piece sideways and MIB said he couldn't do that. When asked why he said because it's against the rules. Then Jacob said "You made the rules." "And when you make your own game you can make your own rules." MIB told him.
Widmore brings Desmond to the island because of his ability. In the process, Widmore zaps Desmond with electromagnetism sending his conciousness into the Sideways Universe. When Desmond returns he seems unlike himself, completely willing to do whatever is asked of him. This results in him pulling the cork and MIB dying and the island being saved.
Jacob was able to move sideways in his own game.
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Upon watching the season again, I am more than happy enough with how the sideways universe turned out. I'm fine with not getting a plethora of answers, we learned what we needed to know. We found out what the island is. Perhaps not it's genesis but it's what is now for. Some of my favourite episodes of all time were in this season, include Across The Sea, The Finale, The Candidate and Ben's episode. Ben's episode especially, was the best non-finale episode of the season.
As for the oustanding mystery of the island I refer to this quote from Alan Wake. "In a horror story, the main character will always ask 'why?' and there isn't an answer, shouldn't be an answer. The unanswered mystery is what stays with us the longest." That's how I view lost, the island mystery will stay with us, forever.
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I finished watching the series last night and I have serious reservations about how they ended everything.
I can understand why things happened the way they did. I can understand the answers that were given (If you want to call them that) but it felt like the ending was, lame. I mean I'm glad that Hurley got to protect the island. I GUESS I'm glad that Ben somehow redeemed himself and got to be Richard.
Alot of the deaths were very poignant and sweet. Seriously though, wtf?
The sad thing is, that the ending didn't make me care enough to sit here and truly bitch. Everyone died. Everyone moved on. The end.
Meh
I think you misunderstand my meaning and jest. See my av/sig combo.
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It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
A whole lot more than riches and muscle.
The hands of the many must join as one.
And together we'll cross the river.
Puscifer, "The Humbling River"
Someone posted this on the Lostpedia site, a very interesting theory regarding the light at the heart of the island and MIB :
http://ericknowsitall.com/ultimate-lost-theory/
For those that can't be 'arsed' to read it, what it basically boils down to is :
Light = Time
MIB = Metaphysical embodiment of the candidates' troubled past
Thoughts ?
IMO, time and light (on the show) are totally different things, serving different purposes. If one equals another...well, that can't be.
The relationship of light and time in LOST regarding time travel may be more along a believeable road: light=stepping through time.
Maybe symbolically, but definitely not literally.
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