Cemetery Dance discussion thread

[Merlin1958]

I also got this email and deleted it. Personally, I just can't see the additional cost of a slip/traycase for a regular trade edition being worth it. For a more limited item, sure, but a trade edition that will probably be printed in the hundreds of thousands? No way.

John

Cheaper to buy the books on remainder. $8 a book compared to $25 for a slipcase or $50 for a traycase.
Their prices are not outrageous, it just seems more cost effective to carefully store the books.

I have never understood the allure of these aftermarket slipcases. Whether made by The Overlook, CD, Thomas the Collector or whomever, they just hold no appeal to me whatsoever.

Well, to each his/her own, but I agree with pixie I think they protect a book more nicely than a "bag" and some how "add" something to the collectible. That's me though.

[carlosdetweiller]

I also got this email and deleted it. Personally, I just can't see the additional cost of a slip/traycase for a regular trade edition being worth it. For a more limited item, sure, but a trade edition that will probably be printed in the hundreds of thousands? No way.

John

Cheaper to buy the books on remainder. $8 a book compared to $25 for a slipcase or $50 for a traycase.
Their prices are not outrageous, it just seems more cost effective to carefully store the books.

I have never understood the allure of these aftermarket slipcases. Whether made by The Overlook, CD, Thomas the Collector or whomever, they just hold no appeal to me whatsoever.

Well, to each his/her own, but I agree with pixie I think they protect a book more nicely than a "bag" and some how "add" something to the collectible. That's me though.

Yes, to each his/her own. My books seem to stay real nice just being shelved properly and handled carefully. I usually put a Bro-Dart or Demco dust jacket protector on as soon as I get the book. That is all that I need. I've got books that I bought new 40 years ago that look as fresh as the day I bought them.

[Dr. Dawg]

I also got this email and deleted it. Personally, I just can't see the additional cost of a slip/traycase for a regular trade edition being worth it. For a more limited item, sure, but a trade edition that will probably be printed in the hundreds of thousands? No way.

John

Cheaper to buy the books on remainder. $8 a book compared to $25 for a slipcase or $50 for a traycase.
Their prices are not outrageous, it just seems more cost effective to carefully store the books.

I have never understood the allure of these aftermarket slipcases. Whether made by The Overlook, CD, Thomas the Collector or whomever, they just hold no appeal to me whatsoever.

Well, to each his/her own, but I agree with pixie I think they protect a book more nicely than a "bag" and some how "add" something to the collectible. That's me though.

Yes, to each his/her own. My books seem to stay real nice just being shelved properly and handled carefully. I usually put a Bro-Dart or Demco dust jacket protector on as soon as I get the book. That is all that I need. I've got books that I bought new 40 years ago that look as fresh as the day I bought them.

I tend to be on the other end of the spectrum... I'm a slipcase junkie.

I have Collector's cases for all of my DT books that he makes them for (just missing that 1st edition gunslinger). One of my prized books is a Centipede Press Salem's Lot gift edition with extra set of photographs in the Collector's traycase, and I actually bought a 1st edition Stand because I liked the presentation in the traycase so much. For UTD, I bought the Collector's slipcase for the gift edition and a CD traycase for the signed edition.

I am drawing the line though at slipcases for regular trade editions, though. I passed on the Blockade Billy case because I have already put too much money into that tiny book (limited/1st edition/mass market) and have no plans to get the Full Dark slipcase.

[biomieg]

I'm not too keen on aftermarket slipcases either. I have said in Dolso's thread (or at least I think I have) that I wouldn't mind getting his custom cases for all my books and I was only half kidding because I love the woodwork. But the regular aftermarket cases? Mehh... I have one for my copy of CYCLE OF THE WEREWOLF because I got it from Kyle (Kacod) like that. Like Bob, I prefer to put a protective cover on my books and that's about it. Keep your books out of direct sunlight, don't let the wind and rain blow over your shelves, and handle your books with care and all should be fine.

[Cloysterpete]

I love slipcases, If Scribner brought out each new King book in slipcase I would buy it (expenses allowing).

But they would have to be published by the same company who publishes the book, not some knock-off case that some other publisher puts out looking to make some coin off of King's new book, in-fact seeing as how they haven't gone to the effort/expense involved in producing and marketing a new King book I don't believe in giving a company like CD money made off the back of another publisher book.

I honestly don't know how is it there allowed to make these?, does King/Scribner just give permission or don't they need it?. Seems wrong to me.

[e_taylor]

I love slipcases, If Scribner brought out each new King book in slipcase I would buy it (expenses allowing).

But they would have to be published by the same company who publishes the book, not some knock-off case that some other publisher puts out looking to make some coin off of King's new book, in-fact seeing as how they haven't gone to the effort/expense involved in producing and marketing a new King book I don't believe in giving a company like CD money made off the back of another publisher book.

I honestly don't know how is it there allowed to make these?, does King/Scribner just give permission or don't they need it?. Seems wrong to me.

Theres no copyright infringement, they are simply making a case to house a book.

I still agree with your sentiments though.

[lophophoras]

Purchasing a case for a regular trade edition seems a little excessive to me. Some people like them and that's cool, if you have the money and that is what you want to spend it on then I say go for it.

On the flip side, I really liked the cases that Tomas made for The Stand. As old as that book is and as popular as it is, I think that case was a great way to protect, display, and add more value to the book. I think he is working on cases for the other early first, I'll be in line to purchase each one of those as well.

Also, I can see purchasing a case for a trade edition only if it has been signed. I think the case would add to the value and collectability of the book.

Of course, these are just my opinions.

[Cloysterpete]

Theres no copyright infringement, they are simply making a case to house a book.
I still agree with your sentiments though.

...and putting Stephen King name on it and Under the Dome. Can't Scribner trademark the name of the book to stop it being pasted onto other products?. I know it would piss me off if it was my book and they were using my name without my permission.

[biomieg]

I think it depends - see Dolso's collection thread, for example. He mentions a couple of times that some of his cases can't be sold because of copyright issues. Perhaps that is the case when one actually uses the 'logo' of a book (meaning, identical fonts and additional drawings etcetera) as opposed to simply the name of the book and/or the author in a basic font. I may be wrong though.

[Ari_Racing]

Actually, I always loved CD's slipcases and traycases, since I got the first one from them (From a Buick 8 gift edition). I'm getting one of these for sure and I only regret I didn't saw the UTD ones before.

[biomieg]

Since we're still discussing slipcases, I might as well get this off my chest: there are some nice slipcases out there but the Overlook ones... man, they are fugly!!! I know many people like them but I can't stand them.

[ELazansky]

I like slipcases for protection purposes. I don't have a dedicated room in my house that is completely void of sunlight, and I don't have any bookcases with doors containing UV coating on the glass. So for anything other than regular trade editions, I use slipcases, turn the books around so the spines face the back of the bookcase, and my books have pretty good protection from the sun and dust. Plus, if my kids get to my books, less chance of damage to the books since they are somewhat protected.

[Randall Flagg]

This just in from Cemetery Dance:

NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!
The Cemetery Dance Collectors Club is Here!
Members receive an EXCLUSIVE Signed Limited Edition Hardcover, Limited Edition Stephen King Art Print, T-Shirt, Tote Bag, Discounts, Membership Card, and other perks not available to the general public!
Available for TEN DAYS Only and Then They're GONE!

Hi Folks!
Today we're pleased to announce we're selling memberships to the first-ever Cemetery Dance Collectors Club!

There are many extremely exciting "members' only" perks for those who join... including an EXCLUSIVE SIGNED LIMITED EDITION HARDCOVER by horror master RAY GARTON featuring his most controversial work ever!
The book is called WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH and copies of this signed Limited Edition will NEVER be offered to the general public: no dealers, no wholesalers, no bookstores, no direct sales, no individual copy sales.
Other books we've published in this manner have re-sold on the secondary market for up to $300! These "Not For Sale" books make incredible additions to any collection, and this part of the deal alone is a great value, but it's also just the beginning!
Here are all of the incredible perks that ONLY MEMBERS will receive:
* an exclusive Limited Edition Cemetery Dance t-shirt that will never be sold to the general public -- this is different from the Pennywise shirt and will NEVER be offered again ($17.99 retail value)
* a Limited Edition Cemetery Dance Tote Bag that will never be sold to the general public ($36.99 retail value)
* a SIGNED Limited Edition FULL COLOR Glenn Chadbourne art print depicting a scene from The Secretary of Dreams (Volume Two) by Stephen King, printed on a special heavy paper stock. This exclusive art print will be limited to exactly the number of members in the club and will NEVER be printed or sold again! ($50.00 retail value)
* one in-stock signed Limited Edition of our choice that will ship with your "welcome packet" ($40 retail value)
* exclusive discounts throughout the next year sent straight to your inbox -- minimum possible savings will be more than $1,000
* an exclusive Membership ID card, hand-numbered by a member of our staff, that commemorates your role as a "FOUNDING MEMBER" of the collectors club -- your ID number will be assigned as you join, so the first member will be 001, etc.
* and last, but certainly not least, one copy of WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH by Ray Garton, the exclusive "Not For Sale" SIGNED and NUMBERED Limited Edition hardcover featuring his most controversial religious horror short stories, plus at least one or two new pieces that are sure to get him in trouble with someone!
This is a book that is way too over-the-top for a mass market publisher or even the regular small press audience... hence this very limited publication that is sure to turn the book into a legendary title for collectors! We've done two other "Not For Sale" Limited Editions with Ray, which have proven to be extremely popular. Once collectors get these "Not For Sale" books, they tend to hoard them, driving the value up!
This is a full-blown Limited Edition with all of the usual fine details that make our books special and collectible, and the print run will be set by how many memberships we sell. For example, if we sell 100 memberships, there will be just 100 copies of this book printed!
Your one year membership and your exclusive discounts will begin when this special ends in ten days, and your welcome packet with your t-shirt, tote bag, art print, in-stock Limited Edition, and Membership ID card will ship this fall (some items need to be custom made and can't be produced until we have final counts for the membership roster).
Here's the amazing thing about this deal: this one year membership only costs $99 plus shipping!
Look at the value of what you'll get in your first shipment alone (almost $150 worth of great items!) and then remember that you're also getting the "Not For Sale" book (which could easily be worth a lot more than the membership fee all by itself!) and you're also going to receive numerous exclusive discounts and special offers throughout the year -- and you'll quickly see what an incredible value this deal is!
Most importantly for the collectors, NONE of the special items we're producing for the members will be sold to the general public! We will offer a lettered edition of the Garton book down the road, as is the standard procedure for the "Not For Sale" books we produce, but those lettered editions usually sell out overnight and only increase awareness of the Limited Edition. Your exclusive signed Limited Edition will be the first version printed anywhere in the world!
We know some people will want memberships for friends and family, but we must limit each customer to three memberships. We're only going to offer these memberships for TEN DAYS and then they're gone for good, so don't wait! Place your order today so you don't miss out!
As always, thanks for your continued support and enthusiasm!

[lophophoras]

Since we're still discussing slipcases, I might as well get this off my chest: there are some nice slipcases out there but the Overlook ones... man, they are fugly!!! I know many people like them but I can't stand them.

LOL....

[Rahfa]

Nobody's posted a pic of the SOD lettered signature page yet?

I'm not expecting anything special..but still neat to see!

[Randall Flagg]

[Rahfa]

Pretty cool!

[frik]

Nobody's posted a pic of the SOD lettered signature page yet?

I'm not expecting anything special..but still neat to see!

And another one (which I had posted in my collectionthread..)

sk

[shnnrc01]

really nice!

[ELazansky]

So does anyone have opinions on their new Collector's Club? I realize CD has had numerous issues in the past, but I'm only trying to look forward. I suppose for $99 for the year, it looks like a good value for the items that you get. I'm sure the "future discounts" won't be eligible on any SK items, but it might be a good way to pick up some s/l books from authors I've never read before at a low price. Curious what others think...

[Tito_Villa]

So does anyone have opinions on their new Collector's Club? I realize CD has had numerous issues in the past, but I'm only trying to look forward. I suppose for $99 for the year, it looks like a good value for the items that you get. I'm sure the "future discounts" won't be eligible on any SK items, but it might be a good way to pick up some s/l books from authors I've never read before at a low price. Curious what others think...

It doesn't sound too bad, but i just can't justify giving them anymore $$$ untill i get the books that are owed to me!

[Merlin1958]

So does anyone have opinions on their new Collector's Club? I realize CD has had numerous issues in the past, but I'm only trying to look forward. I suppose for $99 for the year, it looks like a good value for the items that you get. I'm sure the "future discounts" won't be eligible on any SK items, but it might be a good way to pick up some s/l books from authors I've never read before at a low price. Curious what others think...

They've run out of the Blockade Billy money already!? Or is someone planning a little "European Getaway"?


LOL

[carlosdetweiller]

So does anyone have opinions on their new Collector's Club? I realize CD has had numerous issues in the past, but I'm only trying to look forward. I suppose for $99 for the year, it looks like a good value for the items that you get. I'm sure the "future discounts" won't be eligible on any SK items, but it might be a good way to pick up some s/l books from authors I've never read before at a low price. Curious what others think...

I don't get e-mails from CD anymore so I don't know how the "club" is supposed to work. I think if you want inexpensive books by CD....one way would be to go to ABE search page and type Cemetery Dance in the publisher line.....then ask for them to be listed "lowest price first." I'll bet there would be lots of CD books by people you haven't read at low prices and you wouldn't have to wait on CD's interminable delays and slow production schedule.

How does the proposed "Collector's Club" work anyway?

[jhanic]

I forwarded their email to you. (I'm not joining it.)

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Anyone who joins it deserves all they get. There has been enough warnings in the past.