Best Sci Fi nominations + General updates throughout the tournament

[Merlin1958]

And Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy wasn't even nominated?

That's probably a blessing. Awful movie.

BUT it is a highly beloved sci fi book series, so i believe it could be on the list

I am a huge fan of "The Guide" series, but the books far exceeded the movie and they are, after all, really "Spoofs" and social commentary. The movie did not live up to the books and therefore, should probably not be included in a "Best Sci-Fi films" vote.

[Lookwhoitis]

wow, so it is an exclusive club of 128.

Guess ill go back to being peeved at how all these plethora of vote posts clog up the chat boards to no avail when you view the boards through the "unread posts" tab. you have a best of

How the heck can you have a "best of" Sci Fi films with 128 entries and not have Children of Men represented.

[Still Servant]

i nominate:

Children of Men - Alfonso Cuaron

ALSO

Code 46 and A Scanner Darkly

I nominated Children of Men. No way I was allowing a tournament on Sci-fi without including the best Sci-fi film in 10 years.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...l=1#post859307

Here's what we should do next time in order to pick the nominations. Everybody should submit a list. You can have 500 movies on the list or 5. If a film shows up on at least 3 lists (the number of lists it has to appear on can be more or less, it's open to discussion) it is officially nominated.

I still think there are a few films on the final list that need to be discussed. I was under the impression superhero movies would not be included. If so, The Dark Knight should have been nominated. It's better than all the superhero films nominated combined.

Also, I'm surprised nobody nominated Soylent Green and Logan's Run. I would have liked to see WarGames nominated. One of my favorite films, but most people forget about it when discussing Sci-fi.

[Ricky]

I wouldn't consider Jacob's Ladder Sci-Fi at all (others may disagree), but Mimic definitely is.

[Lookwhoitis]

This is not a "Best of" sci fi contest. It is a popularity contest limited to folks who posted in a thread in a 12 hour window.

Despicable me? Come on...

Time Bandits is Sci Fi

That is all...

[T-Dogz_AK47]

And Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy wasn't even nominated?

That's probably a blessing. Awful movie.

BUT it is a highly beloved sci fi book series, so i believe it could be on the list

It could have been, it just wasn't nominated.

IMHO I was glad it wasn't nominated purely because I thought it sucked as a movie, not because it wasn't Sci-fi.

[Merlin1958]

I wouldn't consider Jacob's Ladder Sci-Fi at all (others may disagree), but Mimic definitely is.

This is not a Best of" sci fi contest. It is a popularity contest limited to folks who posted in a thread in a 12 hour window.

Despicable me? Come on...

Time Bandits is Sci Fi

That is all...

I agree with both posts. This got way out of hand.

[Lookwhoitis]

i nominate:

Children of Men - Alfonso Cuaron

ALSO

Code 46 and A Scanner Darkly

I nominated Children of Men. No way I was allowing a tournament on Sci-fi without including the best Sci-fi film in 10 years.

Here's what we should do next time in order to pick the nominations. Everybody should submit a list. You can have 500 movies on the list or 5. If a film shows up on at least 3 lists (the number of lists it has to appear on can be more or less, it's open to discussion) it is officially nominated.

I still think there are a few films on the final list that need to be discussed. I was under the impression superhero movies would not be included. If so, The Dark Knight should have been nominated. It's better than all the superhero films nominated combined.

Also, I'm surprised nobody nominated Soylent Green and Logan's Run. I would have liked to see WarGames nominated. One of my favorite films, but most people forget about it when discussing Sci-fi.

Where was it, it wasnt on the list (Children of Men)

I agree it is the best sci fi film in the past ten years and I think has a chance for top 3 of all time.

BUUUT. i wasnt the third caller so i dont win the concert tickets

[Lookwhoitis]

Jacobs Ladder?

Horror film... yes

Psychotropic drug trip film...yes

A good Mindfucking...yes

but it is not a science fiction film.

Kudos to whomever listed the Jacket, too (Jean maybe) I got in to a claustrophobic freakout while watching that film at the Sundance film festival... It might not be sci fi either though, Although who knows.

I think im going to go eat a lot of drugs and watch ants crawl all over my skin like in A Scanner Darkly

[Merlin1958]

1. 2001 : A Space Odyssey
2. Blade Runner
3. Star Wars Episode IV : A New Hope
4. A Clockwork Orange
5. Terminator 2
6. Never Let Me Go
7. Metropolis
8. Back to the Future I
9. Gattaca
10. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
11. Jurassic Park
12. Aliens
13. The Matrix
14. Alien
15. Gravity
16. Twelve Monkeys
17. Dark City
18. Ghost in the Shell
19. Gojira (1954)
20. The Truman Show
21. The Abyss
22. Star Wars Episode V : The Empire Strikes Back
23. The Thing From Another World!
24. Planet of the Apes 1968
25. Pleasantville
26. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
27. Forbidden Planet
28. Akira
29. Fantastic Planet
30. West World
31. This Island Earth
32. District 9
33. Her
34. Total Recall
35. The Time Machine
36. Brazil
37. Artificial Intelligence
38. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
39. Mad Max
40. Melancholia
41. Moon
42. The Road Warrior
43. Serenity
44. Village of the Damned 1960
45. Donnie Darko
46. Somewhere In Time
47. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
48. Them
49. Children of the Damned
50. Star Wars Episode VI : Return of the Jedi
51. Minority Report
52. Vanilla Sky
53. Super 8
54. Fahrenheit 451
55. Omega Man
56. Sunshine
57. Another Earth
58. The Fountain
59. When Worlds Collide
60. Abre Los Ojos (Open Your Eyes)
61. Predator
62. Wall-E
63. The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension
64. Robocop
65. Flight of the Navigator
66. The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951)
67. The Incredible Shrinking Man
68. The Fifth Element
69. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Donald Sutherland)
70. Silent Running
71. Primer
72. Independence Day
73. eXistenZ
74. War of the World 1953
75. Avatar
76. Solaris
77. Island of Lost Souls
78. Event Horizon
79. On The Beach
80. The Thing
81. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
82. Seconds
83. Starship Troopers
84. Frankenstein 1931
85. The Butterfly Effect
86. Altered States
87. The Fly
88. The Curse of Frankenstein
89. The Cell
90. Pi
91. Escape From New York
92. COLOSSUS "The Forbin" Project
93. Things to Come
94. The Invisible Man
95. Ghostbusters
96. Donovan’s Brain
97. Contact
98. Tetsuo
99. Spider Man 2
100. Quartermass II aka Enemy from Space
101. Cube
102. The Bride of Frankenstein
103. Time Bandits
104. FIVE MILLION YEARS TO EARTH aka QUATERMASS & THE PIT.
105. Woman in the Moon
106. Inception
107. Barbarella
108. The CREEPING UNKOWN aka QUATERMASS XPERIMEN
109. Waterworld
110. Looper
111. Pandorum
112. 20 MILLION MILES TO EARTH.
113. Despicable Me
114. Je t'aime, je t'aime
115. Tron Legacy
116. Phase IV
117. The Arrival
118. Stalker
119. Demolition Man
120. The Hidden 1987
121. The Final Countdown
122. Fire in the Sky
123. Hellboy
124. 1984
125. Star Trek II : The Wrath of Khan
126. X-Men : Days of Future Past
127. Dark Star
128. About Time

Just for reference...

[Lookwhoitis]

i nominate:

Children of Men - Alfonso Cuaron

ALSO

Code 46 and A Scanner Darkly

I nominated Children of Men. No way I was allowing a tournament on Sci-fi without including the best Sci-fi film in 10 years.

Here's what we should do next time in order to pick the nominations. Everybody should submit a list. You can have 500 movies on the list or 5. If a film shows up on at least 3 lists (the number of lists it has to appear on can be more or less, it's open to discussion) it is officially nominated.

I still think there are a few films on the final list that need to be discussed. I was under the impression superhero movies would not be included. If so, The Dark Knight should have been nominated. It's better than all the superhero films nominated combined.

Also, I'm surprised nobody nominated Soylent Green and Logan's Run. I would have liked to see WarGames nominated. One of my favorite films, but most people forget about it when discussing Sci-fi.

Where was it, it wasnt on the list (Children of Men)

I agree it is the best sci fi film in the past ten years and I think has a chance for top 3 of all time.

BUUUT. i wasnt the third caller so i dont win the concert tickets

Whoever edited Somewhere in Time back in at 46. mistakenly took out Children of Men instead of Children of the Damned and for that alone deserves to be fired.

I looked down that whole list of 128 and saw no Children of Men and was like WHAT! (what a buncha maroons!)

[Merlin1958]

Hellboy
Despicable Me
Ghostbusters
Back to the Future I

These films all need (IMHO) reconsideration. Also the main "Trilogy's" taking up 3 slots. Just make the trilogy one entry. There are certainly other deserving films. Sorry Jean, but BTTF is "fun with time travel" and really shouldn't count as a true "SYFY" IMHO

[Lookwhoitis]

a suggested solution:

1 open the field to more than 128.
2 Allow longer time than 12 hours for people to participate
3 Allow more time for discourse on what "is" and"isnt"
4 Watch the majority choose the correct answer to number 3 EVEN IF you allow "questionable" Films (Despicable Me? X-Men?) to be nominated

[T-Dogz_AK47]

I just re-read the posts, Children of Men was nominated at #46.

Needfulthings swapped his choice of Children of the Damned for Somewhere in Time at #49 but the wrong film got deleted.

The list should read #46 Children of Men and #49 Somewhere in Time.

[Merlin1958]

I just re-read the posts, Children of Men was nominated at #46.

Needfulthings swapped his choice of Children of the Damned for Somewhere in Time at #49 but the wrong film got deleted.

The list should read #46 Children of Men and #49 Somewhere in Time.

Says the guy with an AK-47? LOL J/K I thought a little levity was in order. LOL

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Hellboy
Despicable Me
Ghostbusters
Back to the Future I

These films all need (IMHO) reconsideration. Also the main "Trilogy's" taking up 3 slots. Just make the trilogy one entry. There are certainly other deserving films. Sorry Jean, but BTTF is "fun with time travel" and really shouldn't count as a true "SYFY" IMHO

IMHO a movie from a franchise such as Star Wars should be regarded on it's individual merits rather than the whole. The Empire Strikes Back is regarded as being one of finest sci-fi films ever made, so having it tarnished by comparing it with the uber shit Phantom Menace is just not on.

Back to the Future is definitely pure Sci-fi and is also regarded as being one of the most important movies within the genre...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/?ref_=nv_sr_1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future

[Merlin1958]

Hellboy
Despicable Me
Ghostbusters
Back to the Future I

These films all need (IMHO) reconsideration. Also the main "Trilogy's" taking up 3 slots. Just make the trilogy one entry. There are certainly other deserving films. Sorry Jean, but BTTF is "fun with time travel" and really shouldn't count as a true "SYFY" IMHO

IMHO a movie from a franchise such as Star Wars should be regarded on it's individual merits rather than the whole. The Empire Strikes Back is regarded as being one of finest sci-fi films ever made, so having it tarnished by comparing it with the uber shit Phantom Menace is just not on.

Back to the Future is definitely pure Sci-fi and is regarded as one of the most important movies within the genre...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/?ref_=nv_sr_1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future

I won't comment further on BTTF, but taking 3 spots for the "Star Wars" movies does not seem right. I agree ESB is the better of the three, but are you really gonna watch it without watching IV and VI? Notice I grouped the films into trilogy's, so no need to associate them with I,II,III if you do not want to.


Example: You would judge LOTR on it's own vs. The Hobbit, yes?

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Hellboy
Despicable Me
Ghostbusters
Back to the Future I

These films all need (IMHO) reconsideration. Also the main "Trilogy's" taking up 3 slots. Just make the trilogy one entry. There are certainly other deserving films. Sorry Jean, but BTTF is "fun with time travel" and really shouldn't count as a true "SYFY" IMHO

IMHO a movie from a franchise such as Star Wars should be regarded on it's individual merits rather than the whole. The Empire Strikes Back is regarded as being one of finest sci-fi films ever made, so having it tarnished by comparing it with the uber shit Phantom Menace is just not on.

Back to the Future is definitely pure Sci-fi and is regarded as one of the most important movies within the genre...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/?ref_=nv_sr_1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future

I won't comment further on BTTF, but taking 3 spots for the "Star Wars" movies does not seem right. I agree ESB is the better of the three, but are you really gonna watch it without watching IV and VI? Notice I grouped the films into trilogy's, so no need to associate them with I,II,III if you do not want to.


Example: You would judge LOTR on it's own vs. The Hobbit, yes?

As a solution, I think it would be fairer to have a limit of only one nomination per franchise. That way, there is only one vote for a Star Wars movie, one vote for a Back to the Future movie and so on...

That way, the best of each franchise would be represented and it would also free up space for other films to be nominated.

[needfulthings]

YES..... CHILDREN OF MEN is IN & CHILDERN OF THE DAMNED #49 is OUT.

[Merlin1958]

Hellboy
Despicable Me
Ghostbusters
Back to the Future I

These films all need (IMHO) reconsideration. Also the main "Trilogy's" taking up 3 slots. Just make the trilogy one entry. There are certainly other deserving films. Sorry Jean, but BTTF is "fun with time travel" and really shouldn't count as a true "SYFY" IMHO

IMHO a movie from a franchise such as Star Wars should be regarded on it's individual merits rather than the whole. The Empire Strikes Back is regarded as being one of finest sci-fi films ever made, so having it tarnished by comparing it with the uber shit Phantom Menace is just not on.

Back to the Future is definitely pure Sci-fi and is regarded as one of the most important movies within the genre...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/?ref_=nv_sr_1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_the_Future

I won't comment further on BTTF, but taking 3 spots for the "Star Wars" movies does not seem right. I agree ESB is the better of the three, but are you really gonna watch it without watching IV and VI? Notice I grouped the films into trilogy's, so no need to associate them with I,II,III if you do not want to.


Example: You would judge LOTR on it's own vs. The Hobbit, yes?

As a solution, I think it would be fairer to have a limit of only one nomination per franchise. That way, there is only one vote for a Star Wars movie, one vote for a Back to the Future movie and so on...

That way, the best of each franchise would be represented and it would also free up space for other films to be nominated.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other, but yes that would work as well. Seems a little fairer as well. Nice job, T-Dogz!!!


"Reloaded" was my favorite "Matrix" film. FWIW

[fernandito]

Alright guys. Firstly, I must apologize - as I discussed with another member on here, this is the first genre specific tournament I've hosted (I was only a helping hand for the Horror contest lol) and I wasn't prepared for the kind of obstacles we've run into during this nomination process. In the past the nominations have gone on for the better part of one or two days so I felt confident that several people would have a chance to get their nominations in, as we all saw, it didn't work out that way and I apologize to those who were left out in the cold. I should have done a better job. Perhaps next time we'll increase the threshold to 5 films between votes.

Now, it looks like there are a couple films on here whose eligibility is being contested. What I propose is that we compile a list of any films you all feel do not belong in the tournament. In order for that film to remain on the table, it must be 2nd by another member on here. If it is not, the member who nominated it in the first place must choose another film to take its place.

What say you all?

[needfulthings]

As a solution, I think it would be fairer to have a limit of only one nomination per franchise. That way, there is only one vote for a Star Wars movie, one vote for a Back to the Future movie and so on...

That way, the best of each franchise would be represented and it would also free up space for other films to be nominated.[/QUOTE]
BULLSHIT ... EACH MOVIE STANDS ALONE.

[Tommy]

Hellboy
Despicable Me
Ghostbusters
Back to the Future I

These films all need (IMHO) reconsideration. Also the main "Trilogy's" taking up 3 slots. Just make the trilogy one entry. There are certainly other deserving films. Sorry Jean, but BTTF is "fun with time travel" and really shouldn't count as a true "SYFY" IMHO

I changed Hellboy to Source Code, I thought someone would have a problem with it

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Looking at the list there are a few franchises that could be clipped to only one nomination in order to free up space...

Star Wars Episodes IV, V and VI
Terminator 1 & 2
The Quatermass Experiment 1 & 2
Mad Max 1 & 2
Alien & Aliens

If we clip these films to only one nomination per franchise, it would free up an additional 6 spaces for films to be chosen by people who have not yet voted.

[Tommy]

Changed No. 123 to Source Code