Hey everyone,
Just a quick question...
What do you think is considered more collectible/desirable, a Galley Proof, or an ARC?
Hey everyone,
Just a quick question...
What do you think is considered more collectible/desirable, a Galley Proof, or an ARC?
"We make up horrors to help us cope with the real ones."
28 in 23 (?)!!!!
63 in '23!!!!!!!!!!
My Collection: https://www.thedarktower.org/palaver...ion-Merlin1958
The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
It depends on how many of each are available. Most of King's works have one or the other available, but not both. To me, they're both equally collectable.
John
28 in 23 (?)!!!!
63 in '23!!!!!!!!!!
My Collection: https://www.thedarktower.org/palaver...ion-Merlin1958
The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
I agree with Bill. An ARC usually looks like a paperback version of the trade hardcover edition, which to me is very boring. Proofs usually look very plain but I like that, it reflects exactly what they are - little pieces of publishing history, 'work-in-progress' versions of books.
I basically only collect older proofs (up to the mid-1990s) and I do own the Pet Sematary and Thinner ARCs (because, as John said, sometimes they're the only pre-publication state available). But they're not my favorites.
I'm with John--both are desirable....
Look at Doctor Sleep US and UK proofs. VERY few have surfaced(so far)-I think we may see more soon but who knows? Look at the proof for CELL--very hard to find....
It is a question that may not have a single best answer for every book. At times the terms proof and ARC are interchangeable and/or synonymous. Some books have proofs and ARCs published, some have only proofs and some only ARCs.
Personally, if there are two or more prepublication states done and available to collectors then the earlier state is the most collectible. So, in most cases, a galley proof is more collectible than an ARC, IMO.
Bob
So true.
Depends on the book. I have some "proofs" at home of course that have the word "galley" on them.
I think I like the "manuscripts" best!
Earlier is better, but (for me) only to a certain extent: I've never felt the need to collect manuscripts (bound or not), for example. For reasons I can't explain I simply have a weak spot for proofs - especially the Viking and Doubleday proofs (not that I own any Doubledays of course).
*edit: I forgot to mention in my first post that I own a Carrie ARC, of course. Even though it's not a proof it is one of my favorites (the exception to the rule).
Exactly. The terminology is fluid, unfortunately. It would be nice if the nomenclature would stay the same over the years. The term "galley proof," to me anyway, refers to the long galley pages that were printed in only a few copies and were strictly for in house proofreading and editing. These would never be sent out to reviewers. They were working copies for proofers and editors.
Nowadays, as you said, Mike, review copies get sent out to reviewers with the words "galley proof" or "advance uncorrected proof" printed on the front page. It can be very confusing. Often we aren't really even talking about the same thing.
This is actually what I was reffering to in my original post "refers to the long galley pages that were printed in only a few copies and were strictly for in house proofreading and editing. These would never be sent out to reviewers. They were working copies for proofers and editors. "
To me the Galley Proof is a very plain copy of the book in a raw form (usually on 8 1/2 x 11 paper) that was used for the proof readers and editiors...
"We make up horrors to help us cope with the real ones."
Then there are different types of galleys. I don't have many examples of these but here is the final galley proof of The Shining. This is sometimes referred to as an unbound galley. The pages, in this case, are 6 inches by 24 inches. Usually less than five such copies exist but that would, of course, vary.
Then, later in the process, comes the bound galley. This is more like a finished book. In this case I think 50-55 copies were printed.
It can be and is very confusing to those of us not in the publishing industry when terms get used in different ways to describe different states.
I think we are talking about the same thing... I am pretty sure they have just started using a more standard size paper over time.... however I could be wrong....
"We make up horrors to help us cope with the real ones."
Not really a specific point... I am new to the whole Galley/ARC/Proof collecting scene... and I am trying to get a better feel for what I should be looking for, and if I have to make a choice at some point between any of the below mentioned items what would be the best choice...
At the moment I only have an ARC of The Dark Man... signed and remarqued by Cahdbourne.
"We make up horrors to help us cope with the real ones."
I also like the manuscripts. With most of these, however, there is no way to verify provenance--they are relatively easy to reproduce. I also collect F&Gs (folded and gathered) which are the actual signatures of the book before they are bound. I have a number of these. Actually, I like the pre-publication items in general.
John
Here is a good one I think. Which would you prefer to own and why?
"Absorb the genius of the moment." -Michael Stipe
"Victory is sweet even deep in the cheap seats." -Connor Oberst
NEED:
One For Road Signed Artist Edition, PS Publishing
The Gunslinger Viking proof
Carrie $7.95 Doubleday later printing
The Stand s/l without a doubt. The production quality can't be beat.
John
John,
I have to agree. The Stand S/L production quality is comparable to that of todays "Lettered" editions.
G
"Absorb the genius of the moment." -Michael Stipe
"Victory is sweet even deep in the cheap seats." -Connor Oberst
NEED:
One For Road Signed Artist Edition, PS Publishing
The Gunslinger Viking proof
Carrie $7.95 Doubleday later printing
They both have a timeless, classy look. They're both great but I like 'Salem's Lot just a little more.
For me it would be The Stand S/L as well... it really is an amazing book.
"We make up horrors to help us cope with the real ones."
I concur. The Stand S/L for me too.
I may be the only one, but I don't like the Salem's Lot S/L. So its The Stand for me.