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    Default Facsimile Signatures In Limited Editions

    It is my perception that most Collectors would prefer a real signature, or none at all.
    What is the general view on the use of facsimile signatures?

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    I suppose if it was a pretty cool gift edition with very well done art, I would be ok with a facsimile signature. But otherwise, I don't see the point.

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    Of course I would prefer a real signature but, it dosen't bother me to have a facsimile signature if it's a limited edition book and they all have one.
    I don't think I would want a trade edition with a book plate facsimile signature in it.

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    Facsimile signature means nothing to me and only is worth the costs of the ink for this few letters. It is absolutely no justification for a higher price or any need to be in a book! imho!

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    I think it is ok if other options are offered. As an example if the 25th anniversary IT gift edition had a facsimile, but you had the option of a real signature in the more limited editions.

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    I voted abhor, but there are a few exceptions if the volume is very well done: I'm thinking of the "gift" editions published in the UK with the facsimile signatures. Those were okay. I certainly wouldn't pay much extra though.

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    I have no averson to them. I just don't feel they warrant extra $s. Basically I would choose a well designed trade edition above a lesser designed gift edition. I would choose between two gift editions based on design of the books and would really pay no mind either way to a fakesimile signature was included. I voted that I abhor them, but only because there wasn't an option to reflect my indifference to them.
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    Facsimile is like plastic fruit.
    WHY???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgc1999 View Post
    Facsimile is like plastic fruit.
    WHY???


    I don't hate them, I just don't see the purpose. Are they actually considered a selling point by the publishers?
    If given the choice, I certainly wouldn't pay more to have one added to a book.

    I've always wondered if there was a reason that publishers add them. Is there some kind of history behind it?
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    I would rather have an unsigned, numbered gift edition.

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    My favorites are the idiots on ebay who advertise a signed book when they mean the embossed sig on the front board of a book. LOL
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    I'm a little less "picky" I guess. A LE is a LE and while I prefer a real sig if, that's all there is (UK UTD comes to mind) it is what it is. Sigh.
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    For me they are a detraction from the book. They can be confusing for a very new collector and add nothing to a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulrophobia View Post
    I think it is ok if other options are offered. As an example if the 25th anniversary IT gift edition had a facsimile, but you had the option of a real signature in the more limited editions.
    The gift edition of "The 25th Anniversary Edition of IT" didn't have a facsimile signature, it had no signature at all.

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    I have no idea why they would include a facs sig. I don't see the point at all. There are ones on covers that I see as just decoration and I don't mind, but why include them in the book at all is beyond me. To me it just confuses buyers in the after market venues and give sellers just one more way to try to rape people that don't have the knowledge they should. The publishers don't care about after market stuff, which is fine, but it seems to me they are trying to do about the same thing, jack up the price due to a "sig" being in the book, when that sig is worth nothing but the price of the ink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristineB View Post
    I have no idea why they would include a facs sig. I don't see the point at all. There are ones on covers that I see as just decoration and I don't mind, but why include them in the book at all is beyond me. To me it just confuses buyers in the after market venues and give sellers just one more way to try to rape people that don't have the knowledge they should. The publishers don't care about after market stuff, which is fine, but it seems to me they are trying to do about the same thing, jack up the price due to a "sig" being in the book, when that sig is worth nothing but the price of the ink.
    I guess I find myself in a "weird" minority as I still view it as a "Ltd Edition" meaning a restricted and finite print run. Of course, a real sig supersede's but certain "Ltd's" (generally UK) appeal to me as a UK 1/1 collector in addition to U.S. Then again, my collection, my rules, as with all others.
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    INSOMINIA U.K. SPECIAL LIMITED EDITIONS
    LEFT FACSIMLE 1/2,000 AUTHORIZED BY KING WITH SLIPCASE. RIGHT REAL SIGNATURE 1/200 NO SLIPCASE.








    WHICH IS THE BETTER LOOKING BOOK? IT IS.... WHAT IT IS!

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    My question which is better a real signature on the page or a real signature on a bookplate? Seems like I being someone that does not own a book with a bookplate will the adhesiveness break down then fall off leaving residue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgc1999 View Post
    Facsimile is like plastic fruit.
    WHY???

    FOR THE 1,800 WHO DID WITHOUT THE REAL THING.FOR THE $$$$$$$$$. WHY DID KING AUTHORIZE A 2nd 10,000 PRINT RUN OF THE GUNSLINGER?.. I WANT ONE TOO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulrophobia View Post
    My question which is better a real signature on the page or a real signature on a bookplate? Seems like I being someone that does not own a book with a bookplate will the adhesiveness break down then fall off leaving residue?
    A SIGNATURE SIGNED IN FRONT OF YOU.

    WHICH ONE DO YOU KNOW IS REAL?

    Spoiler:
    BOTH OF COURSE & HOW DO I KNOW? BECAUSE I HAD THE ONE ON THE RIGHT SIGNED .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristineB View Post
    I have no idea why they would include a facs sig. I don't see the point at all. There are ones on covers that I see as just decoration and I don't mind, but why include them in the book at all is beyond me. To me it just confuses buyers in the after market venues and give sellers just one more way to try to rape people that don't have the knowledge they should. The publishers don't care about after market stuff, which is fine, but it seems to me they are trying to do about the same thing, jack up the price due to a "sig" being in the book, when that sig is worth nothing but the price of the ink.
    Agreed and well said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brice View Post
    My favorites are the idiots on ebay who advertise a signed book when they mean the embossed sig on the front board of a book. LOL
    How about the idiots who buy them and pay the extra premium for the signature?

    Quote Originally Posted by sgc1999 View Post
    Facsimile is like plastic fruit.
    WHY???
    DITTO! Also well said
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    Barry Hoffman from Gauntlet Press published an interesting article today regarding facsimile signatures:
    http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/5...41/584f672cea/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    Barry Hoffman from Gauntlet Press published an interesting article today regarding facsimile signatures:
    http://hosted.verticalresponse.com/5...41/584f672cea/
    The PS Editions with Faxsimile signatures all sold out, making the small publisher lots of money to keep them in business.

    Q. What is Gauntlet Press' beef? They should be supporting small publishers to the end of the earth. (We are all in this together.)

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