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    We can (and I will) report the auctions, but on some of them the seller is doing a 24 auction starting on Friday afternoon, perhaps hoping that ebay won't catch him in such a short time.

    I just C&P'd the same statement for each item:

    Blatantly fake Stephen King signature.
    Buyer also has another ebay I.D: pearwate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cwalker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mosheprigan View Post
    Another fake done by somebody's cock? looks like a 'circumcised' signature ...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Finders-Keep...-/291636838158
    Reported +1, for all the good it does.....
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    Wouldn't it be better to win the auction, allow him to post it to you through USPS, and then when it arrives in the post, take the package unopened to the Police and report him for mail fraud?

    That way we could have him charged with a federal offence...

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    I'm getting ill watching people buy these.

    eBay won't do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Dogz_AK47 View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to win the auction, allow him to post it to you through USPS, and then when it arrives in the post, take the package unopened to the Police and report him for mail fraud?

    That way we could have him charged with a federal offence...
    It takes a certain level of evidence of criminality to charge a person. Also the authorities just don't give a shit.

    It took a lot to get rid of brennan. Years of selling forgeries and they did nothing. He was finally caught when he bought a book on eBay signed by many but not King and then tried to sell it a month later as "signed" by all including King. It was obviously the same book since the authors had all randomly signed and some had drawn doodles.

    King has the ability to issue take down notices. He could even require eBay to vet all "signed" King books through his office. He chooses not to involve himself.

    edit: I don't blame King for not wanting to spend any energy fighting these assholes. However I do wish he was willing to delegate the responsibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Dogz_AK47 View Post
    Wouldn't it be better to win the auction, allow him to post it to you through USPS, and then when it arrives in the post, take the package unopened to the Police and report him for mail fraud?

    That way we could have him charged with a federal offence...
    Hard to prove without somehow having King involved. Even a handwriting expert would have to use a for sure King signed item and then the defendant attorney is going to provide their own handwriting experts saying the "official" King signature doesn't look any more real than the signature in question, so only way is to bug King and have him sign in person since he is alive and blah blah blah. Too high of cost vs reward in the end which is what these types rely on.

    Have to make it too costly for Sellerto even bother anymore and really EBay policing is the only way as there is no way to force comments onto the listing unless the seller chooses to post any questions. Would be nice if any questions were auto-posted, so the community could police things, but then it would goof up auctions as people posted lower priced links and whatnot by way of questions.

    I think if "blocks" of reporting come in on specific sellers it will get to a human reviewer and that's the only way to stop these specific bulk fraudulent sellers as they come up. EBay must have a human review for a bunch of "reports" in a short amount of time b/c that is going to look like Nudity, Weaponry, etc... At least I think logically that is what kind of thing generates focused reporting in a shorter timeframe and would be something that EBay would need to act on quickly so if we can leverage EBay's logical methodology process to get a human to look at our issue, then might as well try.

    I believe if we make an effort focusing on specific bad usernames on ebay, then we can make a difference. The user will give up if every auction keeps getting flagged by 100 people. At least you'd think at some point Ebay would step in and tell us to stop or them to stop. Either way is a better outcome than it stands now in my mind.

    EDIT: Just read Brian's post above about King issuing a mandate about his signatures on Ebay. I think that is a GREAT idea to do in addition to constant vigilance in reporting obvious fraudulent listings. His "office" can issue the statement and it's the kind of thing that EBay WILL at least look at b/c of who King is. If WE made it super easy for Stephen King's reps to issue this to EBay then it might happen. Has to be nice and logical and have numerous obvious examples of sold auctions and bad sellers and who better than us to have that almost already done and ready to go right from this very forum? Shows support for King and also is a good thing for everyone from a Karma standpoint. Cannot lump in just questionable one or two time sellers though. ONLY can apply to obvious repeat offenders or will not happen.
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    As usual I haven't thought this all the way through but what if ther was a way to force some kind of acknowledgment of this problem by Ebay on a large, public scale? Bloggers and forum posters are only going to go so far. There must be somebody on this site who either knows a major newsreporter type person (CNN, New York Times, Daily Mail) etc. or at least knows a guy who knows a guy. An article on the editorial page, or a CNBC Consumer Report full of "no comments" from Ebay may go a long way to them fixing the problem, or at least bring attention to the buyers that are being scammed.

    Anyone here have that kind of pull?
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    Another Horror story..( not the kind we like)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STE...EAAOSwAKxWYYjy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunyip View Post
    Another Horror story..( not the kind we like)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STE...EAAOSwAKxWYYjy
    Shocking! And bidding up to Ł52.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bunyip View Post
    Another Horror story..( not the kind we like)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SIGNED-STE...EAAOSwAKxWYYjy
    Shocking! And bidding up to Ł52.
    With as many examples as there are on-line of authentic King sigs, I don't understand why prospective bidders don't take a moment to research their purchase. I'm not suggesting they're responsible for their own victimization, but buyers should be informed and beware enough to at least minimize the chance of it. Anyone bidding on the above auction clearly didn't even take a moment to help themselves; it's frankly kind of hard to sympathize when their interest in aiding themselves is so absent.

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    My apologies if this is the wrong thread, but I have an eBay question. Have any of you guys ever canceled a bid on one of your auctions because of zero feedback for the bidder? This bidder just created their account today and has bid on a fairly expensive item of mine, topping bids from a bidder with a great feedback rating.

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    Everyone on eBay started sometime.

    I wouldn't block a bidder simply because he was new.

    If he wins and pays then it's all good. If he wins and doesn't pay then you offer it to the other bidder as a second chance.
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    Thanks Brian. I appreciate the reply :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Everyone on eBay started sometime.

    I wouldn't block a bidder simply because he was new.

    If he wins and pays then it's all good. If he wins and doesn't pay then you offer it to the other bidder as a second chance.
    Exactly. If your item has bids on it other than ones from the highest bidder, I'm sure other bidders would be happy to have it at a lower price if the winner doesn't pay. Little-to-no risk for you.

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    Thoughts on this signed Regulators?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bdwyer19 View Post
    Thoughts on this signed Regulators?

    I vote no good. Too shaky and wrong angle, for starters...
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    28 in 23 (?)!!!!

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    No.

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    Thanks for the confirmation. I didn't like it either, but wanted to make sure.

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    Are there days when all of the fake signatures on eBay really bum you out.... or is it just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian James Freeman View Post
    Are there days when all of the fake signatures on eBay really bum you out.... or is it just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian James Freeman View Post
    Are there days when all of the fake signatures on eBay really bum you out.... or is it just me?
    For me there is no difference from day to day. It is just what I have come to expect from eBay. I have been looking at this crap for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrier91 View Post
    My apologies if this is the wrong thread, but I have an eBay question. Have any of you guys ever canceled a bid on one of your auctions because of zero feedback for the bidder? This bidder just created their account today and has bid on a fairly expensive item of mine, topping bids from a bidder with a great feedback rating.
    Why would you?

    I actually had a situation this week where it looks like a buyer with ZERO feedback is not going to pay me, but I would never cancel a bid from someone with zero feedbacks.

    If they pay you great, and if not, you relist....or offer it to the 2nd highest bidder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tippy4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by terrier91 View Post
    My apologies if this is the wrong thread, but I have an eBay question. Have any of you guys ever canceled a bid on one of your auctions because of zero feedback for the bidder? This bidder just created their account today and has bid on a fairly expensive item of mine, topping bids from a bidder with a great feedback rating.
    Why would you?

    I actually had a situation this week where it looks like a buyer with ZERO feedback is not going to pay me, but I would never cancel a bid from someone with zero feedbacks.

    If they pay you great, and if not, you relist....or offer it to the 2nd highest bidder.
    Thanks Rick. The zero feedback bidder ended up getting outbid. I realize that we all started somewhere, just made me a little uneasy as it was an expensive item.

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    Any chance your ZERO FEEDBACK BUYER'S name starts with "frank"?
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