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    Re-reading the posts and Path? 19 is most certainly discussed in the books and the framework for "Fan" theory/Speculation is laid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    Re-reading the posts and Path? 19 is most certainly discussed in the books and the framework for "Fan" theory/Speculation is laid.

    Right?
    Uh... yes. But can you find anything like the phrase "19th Loop"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathoftheturtle View Post
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    Re-reading the posts and Path? 19 is most certainly discussed in the books and the framework for "Fan" theory/Speculation is laid.

    Right?
    Uh... yes. But can you find anything like the phrase "19th Loop"?
    No, but it is a very viable theory, no? To deny that is just being argumentative. Not saying there aren't alternative theories available, but you do have to address that one (figuratively) no? I mean it is a "2+2=4" conclusion wouldn't you say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
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    Re-reading the posts and Path? 19 is most certainly discussed in the books and the framework for "Fan" theory/Speculation is laid.

    Right?
    Uh... yes. But can you find anything like the phrase "19th Loop"?
    No, but it is a very viable theory, no? To deny that is just being argumentative. Not saying there aren't alternative theories available, but you do have to address that one (figuratively) no? I mean it is a "2+2=4" conclusion wouldn't you say?
    Well, no. That's what I... just not the same veiwpoint, I guess. How about if he has done less than 19 and what it means is that 19 will be the last? More logical. But I really think it's more related to the whole meta element, still.

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    Default Tower Connection flowchart

    A number of years ago there was a flowchart of Kings books that connected to the DT series. I've been looking for this chart for the past few days and can't seem t find any trace of it. If anyone happens to have a copy of it sittin' on a hard drive somewhere, would you mind sharing it?

    I'm trying to lay out my next few months reading and that chart would sure help in ordering the list. Last time I read all the books connected to the tower I read them in random order.

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    Well, I'm a little light on the Meta-Physical stuff. I tend to try to find some way to "ground" the "Meta" to reality even if through rationalixation. However, one thing seems fairly certain, the Loop we read about cannot be the final one as he clearly embarks on another as detailed in the ending with the Horn of Eld. So even if we just for the sake of keeping tabs, number the loops it would seem there were at least 2. The opening line of The Guslinger and the last line of DTVII. A case could be made for assuming there were more loops previous to (Loops 1 and 2 for example as stated in this post) The Gunslinger through various deja vu references and the use of the opening line, right? Did I say all that right? I'm starting to confuse my self!!! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrald View Post
    A number of years ago there was a flowchart of Kings books that connected to the DT series. I've been looking for this chart for the past few days and can't seem t find any trace of it. If anyone happens to have a copy of it sittin' on a hard drive somewhere, would you mind sharing it?

    I'm trying to lay out my next few months reading and that chart would sure help in ordering the list. Last time I read all the books connected to the tower I read them in random order.

    TIA,
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    I remember that chart. It was on TDT.Net forums. It was pretty darn good too. Randall Flagg may be the guy to PM on that one. If anyone can find it again he's the one!!!

    Great Idea!!

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    What forum was it in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    What forum was it in?
    Jon,

    It was a feature of the old, alternative (?) site Thedarktower.net run by a guy named Tyler if I remember correctly. Again, if I am remembering correctly, it was a sort of "pinned reference feature" on that site. It was admittingly pretty cool, but the "chart" was more relevant to the fact that the series was not yet complete. So it was more a, how do I say this, "Lost" -type link/detective kinda thing. Now that the series is finished, it could still be a valuable "guide", if you will.
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    Yes. I moderated at the site. Some folks backed parts of the site. But I think it was all forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Yes. I moderated at the site. Some folks backed parts of the site. But I think it was all forums.
    Cool!! I distinctly remember a "DT Links" feature on the site. I consulted it often!!! I guess it basically made a "flow-chart" from the "DT connections" King listed in his books, plus some verifiable references. It was really kinda neat!!!!
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    I would reckon that is in in the great beyond.

    I had to chuckle as you explaned the site to me. Funny you don't remember me. We spoke a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    I would reckon that is in in the great beyond.

    I had to chuckle as you explaned the site to me. Funny you don't remember me. We spoke a bit.
    Same Member name? or different? Were you "The Road Virus"? Or am I just getting old? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
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    Ok, thought you might have been "Valtron", but I stand corrected. Either way, very good to be re-acquainted!!!!! You telling me you don't remember that site feature? It was pretty cool and informative. Glad to meet ya, again!!!!! Have I changed? Have you? PM me dude, its been awhile!!!! LOL LOL LOL
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    Although, 19 is a bad number as far as SK/DT mythology goes, so perhaps the events of the DT series are the 19th loop and the next one...possibly the last...would be the 20th. The significance still being that the 19th loop was the one where he finally made progress (the horn).

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    It has been posted over here somewhere, I think it was maybe Jean or Brice that posted it.

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    it couldn't be me because I hardly understand what we are talking about (maybe was too shocked by the fact that Merlin failed to recognize Jon in all these years). Trying to figure it out now; then this thread will be either merged or moved

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    well, I am moving this to Tower Connections now, then we'll all try to find the chart

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    Ahhhhh!!! I know what happened to it!! It used to be the cover image for this section, but we replaced it as it was out of date (in terms of new books being published after it was made) and didn't include all the books that connected anyway. Matt posted it, I don't know if he still has the image but he doesn't really post here anymore.

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    Does this help? I don't know if it's the same one, but this is what I found with a quick google search.
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    I emailed Tyler (who used to own TDT.net) and he was nice enough to send me this. *Link*. I know it's out of date and not the chart I'm looking for...but it's a starting place.

    Edited to maybe work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather19 View Post
    Does this help? I don't know if it's the same one, but this is what I found with a quick google search.
    Thanks heather, yeah that looks like the old TDT.Net as I recall it. It should actually be current unless you are looking to incorporate the comics and WTTK into it. However, as I recall it was more a tool for research and maybe a map to reading, if you will, than anything else.
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    The one we had here, which I remember from .net, had the covers of the books on it.

    Harrald, I can't see what you've posted, just got the dreaded red cross in a white box.

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    It's been so bloody long since I posted here, I can't remember how to do anything. I'll work on that. Also I can't see what Heather added.



    I feel like a noob all over again.


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