When I read the book I really didn't think of a lot of it as anti-religious fervor, I thought it was anti-religious hypocrisy. In other words, people that act religious but act opposite what they profess to believe. Big Jim was the perfect example of this - outwardly religious but willing to do anything to promote his interests no matter how corrupt because he knows better than everyone else.
I agree that you "could" in the sense that HBO or whatever wouldn't be constrained by network standards. But that's not what I meant. I meant it's just not interesting for a 13-episode (or more) series. There's no character arc. Having him interact with a live girl and not be all tumor-wracked is more interesting from a plotting standpoint. He can be a much better foil in the TV series the way they're portraying him. IMO.
Ah, I see. Fair enough.
I agree with you that the route they are going -- or seem to be going -- in the series is more interesting. I wasn't sold on that aspect of the series during the first two episodes, but the third got me a lot more interested.
i'm enjoyed the show so far as well. the 1st episode i thought was ok. not great but ok. the 2nd one was far better i think. and i didn't watch last nights episode cause it was raining like a mother fucker here. and we have DISH so our signal was shit. so i prolly will download or stream it sometime this week.
But it was so over the top that it really damaged King's ability to make that point. Also, and this was my biggest problem with the portrayal, it was not a matter of a person using the appearance of religion to take advantage of people. THAT I could buy and understand. But King was very clear to show that Big Jim really was a very strong Jesus believer. He wouldn't cuss. He prayed. Etc. In his own private thoughts. Not merely outwardly religious. And I have a hard time believing that somebody who was devout enough to never say a cuss word would have no problem murdering folks and doing the evil things he did. Sure, we all have our private vices and weaknesses and hypocrisies. But King might as well have put horns and a tail on him and had him twirl a snidely whiplash mustache. I wanted to hate Big Jim. But how can you hate a cartoon?
But enough about the novel. I'm glad all that's toned down in the TV show. I won't mind if they show Jim using religion to manipulate folks or whatever. That would be par for the course for a whole lot of politicians or egomaniacal wannabe tinpot dome dictators.
Just watched the new episode. It's definitely moving a little slow for me now. Three episodes in, I should feel like something (in plot or characters) has changed. I wish they'd spend a little more time with Phil and Dodee, too.
A NEW GAME BEGINS
Hearts are tough, she said, most times hearts don't break, and I'm sure that's right . . . but what about then? What about who we were then? What about hearts in Atlantis?
That's why I like the Game of Thrones show, it follows the books for the most part. I've enjoyed the books because they are so freaking good. I enjoy the show because they aren't try making it better or different to give a new angle.
Also, CBS could certainly allude to that fact that Junior is banging dead chicks and has a tumor. Hannibal showed what they did after 10pm. So HBO or not, CBS could have done that.
As much as we debate about it, this show isn't as good as others. Don't feel bad, you're not going to hurt SK's feelings
I'm glad some of you are enjoying this version of SK's story, but episode 4 will probably be my last one, I can use that time to read actual SK material.
"That which you think, becomes your world" Matheson
One more thing, say The Dark Tower is turned into a show, who is going to be okay with the tv show changing everything except for the "idea" of the story? Roland is young, Jake and Eddie are combined into one character, Susan isn't paralyzed. I wouldn't be cool with that!
"That which you think, becomes your world" Matheson
I don't think you can really make that comparison. Some of the changes they are making to the show are because they want to continue the story line for much longer than the couple of weeks it lasted in the novel.
If they decided to do a TV show rather than movies for the TDT (which I'm doubting anyway), there is enough material to make 10+ seasons out of it.
Hearts are tough, she said, most times hearts don't break, and I'm sure that's right . . . but what about then? What about who we were then? What about hearts in Atlantis?
Jake'd be 18 by the time that was finished. It would never work.
I'm pretty sure you can stream all the Under the Dome episodes on the CBS website for free, for those who missed any.
http://www.cbs.com/shows/under-the-dome/video
thanxs for the link
Tonight's episode was a heck of a lot better.
"That which you think, becomes your world" Matheson
Another boring episode with another red herring plot and the actors seeming as bored as I was.
Big Jim gonna kill ha .
Yeah, I liked tonight's, too. That shot of Joe sitting up and making the "shhh!" face during the video was creepy.
This episode was better even if some elements were ridiculous (an outbreak that starts and ends in one day).
Finally just got caught up on the past two episodes. I don't hate it, but I was hoping for so much more from this show. I loved the book, but the show just isn't connecting as well for me. Like someone else above mentioned, I really have no connection to any of the characters in the show yet, and it's already 4 eps in. I think we should be feeling something for them by now.
I completely agree. I don't get this either. I think they should have just made Norrie someone from town, and left out the moms. I'm not sure if it's the actresses or what, but they don't even seem like they're in love or a family or anything. So far it's just been wasted screen time for me.
I agree about the outbreak part. Was anything like that in the book. I can't remember, it's been so long since I read it.
This made me laugh.
And I'm willing to bet that the reason for their inclusion in the show is that somewhere down the road as everyone gets more violent, the town's going to start turning on each other and looking for people to blame (the two moms being among the targeted) and the "hate" crime mixed with their injuries (maybe even death?) will show just how much animalistic the town has become.
If they go that route, it could be pretty powerful. But if not, yeah, it's just CBS checking off another demographic on their list.
A NEW GAME BEGINS
One thing that bothered me in the last episode is when the nurse asked the one mom if she had a medical degree and the other mom actually answered for her.
It's a small thing and it may be just me but I was thinking, "Jeez lady, she has a mouth, let her answer for herself."
Hearts are tough, she said, most times hearts don't break, and I'm sure that's right . . . but what about then? What about who we were then? What about hearts in Atlantis?
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The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
I haven't really read through this whole thread, so sorry if this has been mentioned/discussed prior, but the one comment I'll make about the show (which I am enjoying) is that I don't hate any of the characters yet, like I did in the book....