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    christian bale is batman. no one else came close.
    but Bale always puts 150% into his roles so i would have been surprised if he had not been good.

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    <-- still can't stand that Bale does that rediculous whisper talk through the whole Dark Knight movie. I just want to hand him a Sucret and tell him to get over himself.
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    turtlex doesn't like Christian Bale regardless of what role he plays or how he speaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pookie View Post
    turtlex doesn't like Christian Bale regardless of what role he plays or how he speaks.
    Hey!! This is not true !!!

    I thought he was GREAT in American Psycho. I loved Velvet Goldmine and he was fantastic in Empire of the Sun.
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    You left out Little Women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pookie View Post
    You left out Little Women.
    Yes. I did.

    ( Peter Lawford will always be Laurie ... 1949 )

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    Joey: Oh, yeah! Amy just burned Jo's manuscript. I don't see how he could ever forgive her.
    Ross: Um, Jo's a girl, it's short for Josephine.
    Joey: But Jo's got a crush on Laurie. Ohhh! You mean it's like a girl-girl thing? 'Cause that is the one thing missing from The Shining.
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    As you know, my dad would not let us watch anything that was filmed in black and white, therefore I've never seen the 1949 version.

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    Really, though, back on topic, I agree with you dear, about the raspy voice. I'm not really sure why he went that direction. I mean, there must have been a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pookie View Post
    Really, though, back on topic, I agree with you dear, about the raspy voice. I'm not really sure why he went that direction. I mean, there must have been a reason.
    Trying to hide BW's identity, but surely they could've built a voice synthesizer into the suit.

    BTW, I agree about the voice - very annoying. In fact, Mr. Woofer's actually saying he doesn't want to watch the rest bec of that and not being able to hear half of what anyone was saying!
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    turtlex doesn't like Christian Bale regardless of what role he plays or how he speaks.
    Hey!! This is not true !!!

    I thought he was GREAT in American Psycho. I loved Velvet Goldmine and he was fantastic in Empire of the Sun.
    What about The Machinist?

    And Bale will always be my favorite Batman.
    Only the gentle are ever really strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather19 View Post

    What about The Machinist?
    i was just about to ask this.

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    the machinist was just fantastic!!! I loved that film.
    Equilibrium also another very good film.
    Also loved Prestige.
    I dont remember him having a raspy voice in his earlier work? do you think its when he started with the american accent in main stream theatre?

    His worst film would probably be reign of fire. not the bet film ever

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    Yea... eventually I'm gonna sneak out of here quietly before I get flamed to bloody hell...but first, I have to comment - you so knew I would.

    I just don't get the whole Bale thing. He's not that great an actor. He has his moments, but honestly, for every good movie he's done - he's done one equally as bad.

    The DK voice was rediculous. It was stupid... Dude?!? You're in a mask. I would love to know who's idea that was. I am willing to bet it was not Nolan's. It comes off as completely cheesy to me.

    And how can DK belong to anyone except Ledger. He steals every scene he's in.

    Isn't saying Bale is the best Batman like saying ... never mind. We haven't exactly had a plethora of "good" Batm...Batmen to compare him with.

    The Machinist - Meh. Weight loss. Wow. Gee.
    The Prestige - Oh My ... I thought it was just so boring.

    People... wanna see bad? He's got a list... Laurel Canyon. Captain Corelli's Mandolin. ( sorry sweetie ) the remake of Little Women. Reign of Fire. ???

    Honestly, he sorta peaked with Newsies!

    Okay, I'm out on the Bale thing now. I know you all love him, so I'm bowing out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    Yea... eventually I'm gonna sneak out of here quietly before I get flamed to bloody hell...but first, I have to comment - you so knew I would.

    I just don't get the whole Bale thing. He's not that great an actor. He has his moments, but honestly, for every good movie he's done - he's done one equally as bad.

    The DK voice was rediculous. It was stupid... Dude?!? You're in a mask. I would love to know who's idea that was. I am willing to bet it was not Nolan's. It comes off as completely cheesy to me.

    And how can DK belong to anyone except Ledger. He steals every scene he's in.

    Isn't saying Bale is the best Batman like saying ... never mind. We haven't exactly had a plethora of "good" Batm...Batmen to compare him with.

    The Machinist - Meh. Weight loss. Wow. Gee.
    The Prestige - Oh My ... I thought it was just so boring.

    People... wanna see bad? He's got a list... Laurel Canyon. Captain Corelli's Mandolin. ( sorry sweetie ) the remake of Little Women. Reign of Fire. ???

    Honestly, he sorta peaked with Newsies!

    Okay, I'm out on the Bale thing now. I know you all love him, so I'm bowing out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    Isn't saying Bale is the best Batman like saying ... never mind. We haven't exactly had a plethora of "good" Batm...Batmen to compare him with.
    Exactly. Val Kilmer? George Clooney? Michael Keaton?

    I'm not a Bale fanatic and I don't know who I would've chosen had I been in charge of casting, but I do think that he makes a better Batman and a better Bruce Wayne than anyone we've seen since ever.

    IMO, since Batman doesn't have any "powers" and relies only on just training and gadgets, getting the actor right is critical. I agree about the voice issue, as I already mentioned, and while he wears a mask, it's just not enough of a disguise. I think he should mask his voice using a highly sophisticated digital voice synthesizer manufactured by the Wayne corporation and built into his suit.

    And while HL stole the movie with his performance, other people and aspects were great as well. (ETA: Damn, I posted while not finished. I blame Mr. Woofer.) In fact, HL's performance alone being great would be less so were the others not complimentary. I think that the intricate plot also added to this. As a fan of a lot of bad movies, I can confidently state that a single performance, no matter how great, is rarely enough to save a movie. (Not to say that HL wasn't awesome. Srsly, Jack Nicholson should be fucking jealous. Jesus.) A diamond in a pile of shit is still in a pile of shit, and The Dark Knight was far from shit.

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    i have a hard hat on when i say this but
    Spoiler:
    while HL was good, i dont get all the raves bout him in DK, and i feel that had he not died the reviews would not be as raving.


    ok that me running out behind Pam

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    Quote Originally Posted by candy View Post
    i have a hard hat on when i say this but
    Spoiler:
    while HL was good, i dont get all the raves bout him in DK, and i feel that had he not died the reviews would not be as raving.


    ok that me running out behind Pam
    I agree with the second part of your spoiler comment.
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    A whole lot more than riches and muscle.

    The hands of the many must join as one.
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    Okay, I gotta pop back in... on account of it being about Heath Ledger and not ... you know, that other guy in Dark Knight.

    Spoiler:
    I think what is absolutely amazing about Ledger's performance is the utter immersion in the role. He literally disappeared behind the make-up and still managed to project menace, hurt and evil.

    I disagree, wholeheartedly, about the kudos coming because of his death. There was a lot of set talk and leaking of comments to the press, about Ledgers performance ... they were already talking Oscar, long before his unfortunate death.
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    ok, runs in opposite directions away from Pam
    i agree that HL did a fine job, what annoys is people who jumped on the band wagon, a lot of times not even seeing the film.

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    I also agree with you, Pam, as strange as it may sound. I know it seems as if I am agreeing with everyone, but that's only because I believe parts of each.

    Spoiler:
    That is to say that I agree with HL's performance. I'm glad that I waited to see it (since I missed it in the theater, another story) because the hype around it had spoiled it a bit in advance. The cooling off period allowed me to come to the movie with a more receptive mind. (I feel like BW in the party giving the "I believe in Harvey Dent" speech. )

    HOWEVER, death always brings out more commentary, more reviews, more people who claimed to know that he was going to come to this spot from the first second they saw him in Roar, etc. That's what I mean about his death fueling the raving reviews. What's the old joke? If you want your art to be successful, you need to die.
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    Did anyone see Heath in "Candy"? Amazing.
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    Don't worry. I won't say anything else.
    It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
    A whole lot more than riches and muscle.

    The hands of the many must join as one.
    And together we'll cross the river.

    Puscifer, "The Humbling River"


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