Cool. that's great!
This is by no means a criticism in any way. I'm just bcurious as to the thoughts of many collectors. We all know, "The Stand" is a Doubleday production and the associated materials used were inferior. Personally, I think re-binding the page block makes a lot of sense and is good in the long run, but I have also noted that many collectors feel that any changes to the original production reduces value. Of course, I am aware that, Paul may be an exception to that rule seeing as he utilizes nothing but the best of materials and production values. Still, I am curious what collectors, in general think about something like this in let's say "hindsight". Quality editions of this book are already at a premium so what do you guys think about a number of them being taken off the market? I also assume many of the copies, Paul is using didn't have viable DJ's. Given that a standard rule is a DJ is 80% of a books value how does that factor in to an edition like this?
I'm not crapping on this effort at all or, in any way. I'm just wondering how folks really think about it and looking for their insight as King collectors for future reference. I post this simply to encourage some dialogue and to gain insight and information is all. Paul's standards and productions are far above any industry standards and I know these will be beautiful books. Just looking for some of your thoughts and considerations is all.
28 in 23 (?)!!!!
63 in '23!!!!!!!!!!
My Collection: https://www.thedarktower.org/palaver...ion-Merlin1958
The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
I’m not a fan of rebound books anyway, but in this case only 10 copies of the original page block are being used, so I’m not concerned about them being taken off the market.
I'm not either. I mean I know that given the production materials utilized by DD there are fewer and fewer nice copies available (and I've got two) its just that I know there are a lot of "Purists" (?) out there and I was just hoping for some differing perspectives, opinions or, speculations on the subject. Merely for discussion purposes. I know that given it's, Paul they will sell out with many left wanting.
Back in the HF days, there was a lot of differing opinions on some of the "collectibles" we created and I was just curious if maybe the overall thinking had perhaps changed/evolved. Like I said, if anyone was going to do this, Paul is the man to do it and I am not distracting from this edition in the least. Just curious if the overall thinking had changed some or was still the same with this exception or what ever the current thinking is in the collecting community. I for one embrace these kinds of projects. I think it preserves a classic edition, revitalizes it and even makes it more desirable. Just that it didn't seem to be a popular opinion 5 or 6 years ago. Looking for the collective thoughts and discussion is all.
28 in 23 (?)!!!!
63 in '23!!!!!!!!!!
My Collection: https://www.thedarktower.org/palaver...ion-Merlin1958
The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
I think it's way too premature to look back in "hindsight". I think what Paul is doing is amazing, and IMO, will stand the test of time.
28 in 23 (?)!!!!
63 in '23!!!!!!!!!!
My Collection: https://www.thedarktower.org/palaver...ion-Merlin1958
The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!! Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????
Hi Bill, I’ve never felt that well-crafted rebounds were a concern, especially when all that matters is the book block. It’s not just about a bad or missing dj, the covers may be stained or damaged as well - all of which can affect desirability of the original copy. While some projects may make us cringe (no specifics come to mind), I think Dragon Rebound does an honor to the original releases.
If DR is producing ten copies, I wonder how many 1st editions Paul had to buy to find enough suitable book blocks.
"...that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little." ~ Ray Bradbury
Why the need for a 1st edition for any of the DR releases? Isn't the rebinding the point and attraction? If so, what difference does it make what edition is used as long as the page block is in good condition? This isn't directed at you Patrick, I'm just curious as to why it matters.
The insistence on first editions may be a fine-tuning of the notion that the book (not just the work itself, but the physical edition in question) should warrant the full Dragon rebinding treatment (individualized design with distinctive materials using the services of highly specialized craftsmen/women, not only for rebinding but for external cases and special extras).
You can't be aloof until you advertise.
"...that Siren which called and sang and promised so much and gave, after all, so little." ~ Ray Bradbury
The book would receive the full DR treatment regardless of edition. Same block, same paper etc. and since it's a rebinding, not a newly designed limited edition, there is no enhancement of the interior. From a collector's standpoint, rather than altering a first edition and reducing true first edition inventory wouldn't it make more sense to use a later edition/printing?
“If you don't know what you want," the doorman said, "you end up with a lot you don't.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club
Looking for SubPress Lettered::
Angel's Game and Prisoner of Heaven (Zafon)
Ilium (Simmons)
"A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King
We don't know that because DR's only "treatment," thus far, for non-first editions has been to ignore them outright (this is why the question I answered - "why the need for a first edition?" - was asked).
If Paul were to mix in later printings with future rebound projects, I'm sure we'll hear from people about dilution and value etc.
You can't be aloof until you advertise.
My personal definition of a rebound is to breathe new life into something in its most desired, original state. Rebinding anything outside of a 1st edition is pointless IMO.
The Stand is my all time favorite book and this edition would be the end all be all for me. Even above the coffin case.
You don't know my kind.....You don't my mind.....Dark necessities are part of my design.....
Interesting...everything would be exactly the same except for the designated edition. Since the rebinding has altered the original product can it still be considered a true first edition? If not, then what difference does it make which edition is utilized as long as it has received the DR treatment?