Cemetery Dance discussion thread

[jhanic]

The books are on track to begin shipping October 15th.

Does this include the signed/numbered and the signed/lettered editions, or just the trade?

The Gift Edition and the Signed/Numbered will be shipping at the same time.


Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
http://www.CemeteryDance.com
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Thanks for the clarification Brian.

[WeDealInLead]

Any updates on traycased Ronald Kelly books and Tim Lebbon's Map of Moments?

[Brian James Freeman]

Any updates on traycased Ronald Kelly books and Tim Lebbon's Map of Moments?

The Lettered Editions of Midnight Grinding and Hell Hollow are part of our next phase of production this fall and winter. We have hired a second traycase maker, which is definitely going to help!

The Map of Moments is basically ready for the printer, with the exception of the DJ, which the designer is still working on. (This is an outside designer, not one of our usual suspects, and he's also creating the artwork.) We won't be officially announcing the book until all of that work is done, even though it's no secret we're publishing the book, just because we don't want to take preorders until we're 100% sure of the pub date and we can't be sure of that right now. Once the DJ is completed, we'll send the book to the printer and plan the announcement.

Thanks for asking!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
http://www.CemeteryDance.com
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

[lophophoras]

Brian,

Are there any updates on The Century's Best Horror Fiction?

Will we be seeing this one shipped out this year also?

Thanks!

[Brian James Freeman]

Brian,

Are there any updates on The Century's Best Horror Fiction?

Will we be seeing this one shipped out this year also?

Thanks!

My original hope had been to ship The Century's Best Horror Fiction at the end of the year -- seemed like a great way to cap off a great year -- but this past spring UPS lost the signature sheets for the Lettered Edition as they were headed to the last author.

We've been rushing like crazy this summer (and now fall) to get the new sheets signed as quickly as possible. All of the available Non-US authors have now signed (we start overseas because that's where the odds are usually the highest something will go wrong in transit!) and the sheets are out on the west coast right now, working their way back east.

We're working with the authors to keep the sheets moving, and if we can keep the schedule we planned, we should have them back and ready for the printer in December. So now I'm hoping to end the year with the announcement that both volumes are at the printer!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
http://www.CemeteryDance.com
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

[lophophoras]

Brian,

Are there any updates on The Century's Best Horror Fiction?

Will we be seeing this one shipped out this year also?

Thanks!

My original hope had been to ship The Century's Best Horror Fiction at the end of the year -- seemed like a great way to cap off a great year -- but this past spring UPS lost the signature sheets for the Lettered Edition as they were headed to the last author.

We've been rushing like crazy this summer (and now fall) to get the new sheets signed as quickly as possible. All of the available Non-US authors have now signed (we start overseas because that's where the odds are usually the highest something will go wrong in transit!) and the sheets are out on the west coast right now, working their way back east.

We're working with the authors to keep the sheets moving, and if we can keep the schedule we planned, we should have them back and ready for the printer in December. So now I'm hoping to end the year with the announcement that both volumes are at the printer!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
http://www.CemeteryDance.com
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

That's great to hear. I have been looking forward to this one for a while.

Thanks for the update!

[ELazansky]

Is Amazon is going to actually have copies of SOD 2 for sale, or is it just listed on their website along with every other future, new book?

[Brian James Freeman]

Is Amazon is going to actually have copies of SOD 2 for sale, or is it just listed on their website along with every other future, new book?

That's a great question and the answer is: we will not be supplying copies of SOD 2 to Amazon.

Amazon lists pretty much every book with an ISBN, whether or not they can get it. Their system just pulls from Bowker's "Books in Print" database, I think.

For SOD 1, Amazon tried to order around 2,000 copies, I believe. It's been a while, so I don't recall the exact number, but I do remember it easily would have put the book out of print on publication.

Amazon takes such a big discount that many small presses simply can't afford to do business with them because the press would lose money on every copy Amazon sells, and that's just not a viable option for a very small business. Any cash flow is great, of course, and Amazon can provide that, but at the end of the day, it's hard to build your business in that situation. (As always, I speak from my own experience here and I am not speaking on behalf of any other publisher. Everyone has their own approach to the business!)

So the short answer is: nope, we won't be sending any copies to Amazon. Thanks for asking!

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
http://www.CemeteryDance.com
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

[Patrick]

Thank you for all the recent, solid updates, Brian.

[ELazansky]

Thank you for the direct information, Brian. Gotta get my order into CD tonight :-)

[willie3]

One more Brian...

Any progress on The Prince of Dreams, your edition of the book about Neil Gaiman?

Thanks for your updates, very nice to be kept up to date on these projects


Karl

[Sir_Boomme]

Well, I actually feel the opposite...I think a lot of original purchasers are probably not that serious collectors anymore, and will probably sell right away.

But, $400's still a good price...it is a good set of sigs, and that's probably close to what the secondary market will bear.

I keep hearing this phrase "serious collector" What exactly does this mean? Does "serious collector" mean people who spend a lot of money ($400) on books? Does it mean people who collect every book an author (Stephen King) ever wrote? Does it mean a person who buys books signed by famous authors?

webster's dictionary:
serious collector- see carlos detweiller, aka.Bob from Texas

[Brian James Freeman]

One more Brian...

Any progress on The Prince of Dreams, your edition of the book about Neil Gaiman?

Thanks for your updates, very nice to be kept up to date on these projects


Karl

Hi Karl!

Everything is done with the exception of Steve Bissette's exclusive art gallery and his cover artwork. He's been working on the project for a long time, so I'm sure the art is going to be spectacular. Hopefully his schedule will allow him to finish everything soon. We're very much looking forward to completing this one! It's going to be a beautiful edition.

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
http://www.CemeteryDance.com
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

[Matt]

I sure appreciate you coming out here and filling everyone in. Very cool to read it from the source.

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

Please pardon my confusion, and I'm sure I've asked this question before, but -

How many different states are there of The Secretary of Dreams Volume 1, and what would be a fair price to pay for them?

[jhanic]

ARC, "Gift" (trade) edition (5000 copies), signed numbered (750 copies) and a lettered edition that hasn't yet been published. I can't remember how many copies of it were scheduled. I'm not sure on pricing, either.

John

[Brian James Freeman]

ARC, "Gift" (trade) edition (5000 copies), signed numbered (750 copies) and a lettered edition that hasn't yet been published. I can't remember how many copies of it were scheduled.

Yep, those counts are correct!

Published in three states:
* Slipcased Hardcover Gift Edition of only 5,000 copies
* Signed and Traycased Hardcover Limited Edition of only 750 copies bound in leather with a satin ribbon page marker
* Signed Hardcover Lettered Edition of only 52 copies, bound in fine materials with gilded page edges, a satin ribbon page marker, and protected in a massive deluxe traycase

The Lettered Edition did finally ship. Here are some photos if anyone is interested:

http://www.cemeterydance.com/extras/...sod1-lettered/

Best wishes,
Brian Freeman
http://www.CemeteryDance.com
brianfreeman@cemeterydance.com

[jhanic]

Thanks, Brian, for the correction. I didn't order a lettered, so I really didn't keep track of it.

John

[Rahfa]

I think $450 give or take has been the going rate for the SOD I s/l...maybe a little less?

[Randall Flagg]

I keep hearing this phrase "serious collector" What exactly does this mean?

A 'serious collector' is someone who never smiles-until they receive something other 'serious collector's' want but either have not, or may never obtain.

[jhanic]

I keep hearing this phrase "serious collector" What exactly does this mean?

A 'serious collector' is someone who never smiles-until they receive something other 'serious collector's' want but either have not, or may never obtain.

John

[ur2ndbiggestfan]

I think $450 give or take has been the going rate for the SOD I s/l...maybe a little less?

The only ones I've seen lately are in the $650 to $750 range, or much higher. Abebooks has one for over $2300 and one for $750, but that seller opened the book ALL THE WAY to photograph the signature. I NEVER crack my books open that far. I like keeping the spine nice and tight and brand new, and will open them just enough to read them or check the signature if there is one. But that's just me.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The last 2 copies of Signed/Numbered SoD I sold at Betts for $325. I would expect them to sell for less on ebay.
The last 2 copies of Signed/Lettered SoD I sold on ebay for the issue price of $1500.

[divemaster]

I paid about $300 for the numbered from an eBay seller about 6 months ago. I've bought a few books from him over the past year and he usually gives me some good deals. We do it off e-bay so he avoids the fees. Win win.