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[Jimimck]

Hi team. This thread is as good a place than any to ask this: I purchased a s/l Cujo off ABE 41 days ago, and it still hasn't arrived. Even though it is being sent from the States to New Zealand, that is an unusually long time in my experience.

My question is, do I lodge a query through PayPal while I am discussing this with the seller? I'm worried that my 45 days to lodge a dispute it looming, but. Don't want to unnecessarily annoy the seller if it turns out to be a legitimate delay in shipping.

Thoughts?

[Ari_Racing]

I'd tell him that I preffer to get my money back and, if the item arrives, I'd pay for it again.

It worked for me when I had the same delay as yours.

[jhanic]

I agree with Ari. You don't want to miss that 45-day period.

John

[EXPLORER]

Hi team. This thread is as good a place than any to ask this: I purchased a s/l Cujo off ABE 41 days ago, and it still hasn't arrived. Even though it is being sent from the States to New Zealand, that is an unusually long time in my experience.

My question is, do I lodge a query through PayPal while I am discussing this with the seller? I'm worried that my 45 days to lodge a dispute it looming, but. Don't want to unnecessarily annoy the seller if it turns out to be a legitimate delay in shipping.

Thoughts?

I think it would be wise to inform them you have concerns , are trying to work with seller, however want them to be aware of the potential issue.

[Bad Penny]

James, 41 days is way too excessive, even for transit times to collectors down our way (my average for the US to Australia is 10 working days tops - and you're 1,000 miles closer to the US than I am).

Has the seller provided you with the USPS Tracking / Customs Number and confirmation of dispatch?

If not, and I'm assuming that this is the case as you'd be able to track it online and therefore know where the package is, then I'd be asking the question of the seller today, while at the same time lodging the dispute with PayPal (those remaining days will pass altogether too quickly mate).

I'd advice the seller, purely out of courtesy, that you're taking this action - and, sure, it's understandable that you don't want to create waves, however; this is a substantial amount of your hard earned money we're talking about (and, of course, the fact that this L/E, in particular, has special importance to you).

[Jimimck]

Thanks team.
I was leaning towards that course of action, just wanted to get some assurance from others that I wouldn't be making undue issues for the seller. I emailed him earlier today, so hopefully will hear back re if there is any shipping/tracking information. If I don't hear back from tomorrow, I'll send another one informing him Im going to lodge with PayPal, just to protect myself.

Cheers
James

[Jimimck]

Great news. I don't need to add an ABE seller to this thread.

For the first time ever, customs have picked up on a package of mine and held it for duty payment. What they failed to do was CONTACT me to tell me it was there. Been there since 6th August. Useless!

So anyway, after having to pay another $170 (bastards) the s/l Cujo is now on its way, so I should have it early this coming week. Yay.

[Merlin1958]

Great news. I don't need to add an ABE seller to this thread.

For the first time ever, customs have picked up on a package of mine and held it for duty payment. What they failed to do was CONTACT me to tell me it was there. Been there since 6th August. Useless!

So anyway, after having to pay another $170 (bastards) the s/l Cujo is now on its way, so I should have it early this coming week. Yay.

Belated congrats to you and yours!!!

[Bad Penny]

Great news. I don't need to add an ABE seller to this thread.

For the first time ever, customs have picked up on a package of mine and held it for duty payment. What they failed to do was CONTACT me to tell me it was there. Been there since 6th August. Useless!

So anyway, after having to pay another $170 (bastards) the s/l Cujo is now on its way, so I should have it early this coming week. Yay.

That's simply brilliant news Jame - congratulations !!!!

I feel your pain with Customs holding onto a book pending payment of a ransom (in the form of additional tax) but, hey, it could have been much worse (lost in transit, damaged in transit, never shipped, etc)

[bdwyer19]

Great news. I don't need to add an ABE seller to this thread.

For the first time ever, customs have picked up on a package of mine and held it for duty payment. What they failed to do was CONTACT me to tell me it was there. Been there since 6th August. Useless!

So anyway, after having to pay another $170 (bastards) the s/l Cujo is now on its way, so I should have it early this coming week. Yay.

That's great to hear James! Can't wait to see the pictures in another week or so!!

[Dolso]

For the first time ever, customs have picked up on a package of mine and held it for duty payment. What they failed to do was CONTACT me to tell me it was there. Been there since 6th August. Useless!

So anyway, after having to pay another $170 (bastards) the s/l Cujo is now on its way, so I should have it early this coming week. Yay.

Maybe it's just me but I seem to be hearing about quite a bit of a 'customs crack-down' lately. I've heard from folks in Canada, UK, Australia and now NZ? Are others hearing about more stringent customs enforcement lately?

[erxbooks]

For the first time ever, customs have picked up on a package of mine and held it for duty payment. What they failed to do was CONTACT me to tell me it was there. Been there since 6th August. Useless!

So anyway, after having to pay another $170 (bastards) the s/l Cujo is now on its way, so I should have it early this coming week. Yay.

Maybe it's just me but I seem to be hearing about quite a bit of a 'customs crack-down' lately. I've heard from folks in Canada, UK, Australia and now NZ? Are others hearing about more stringent customs enforcement lately?

I recently had a book shipped to a customer in Germany get pulled in customs and he was charged duty. I have never had this happen on any international shipment before. Maybe there is a trend.

[sgc1999]

For the first time ever, customs have picked up on a package of mine and held it for duty payment. What they failed to do was CONTACT me to tell me it was there. Been there since 6th August. Useless!

So anyway, after having to pay another $170 (bastards) the s/l Cujo is now on its way, so I should have it early this coming week. Yay.

Maybe it's just me but I seem to be hearing about quite a bit of a 'customs crack-down' lately. I've heard from folks in Canada, UK, Australia and now NZ? Are others hearing about more stringent customs enforcement lately?

I recently had a book shipped to a customer in Germany get pulled in customs and he was charged duty. I have never had this happen on any international shipment before. Maybe there is a trend.

Its a new custom.

[Bad Penny]

Here in Australia, the holding of package by Customs (at the moment) occurs only when the declared value (including the shipping component) equals or exceeds $AU1,000 - there's been rumours of this being reviewed with a view to lowering this bench mark to something ludicrous, like under $AU100

[Dolso]

I recently had a book shipped to a customer in Germany get pulled in customs and he was charged duty. I have never had this happen on any international shipment before. Maybe there is a trend.

Its a new custom.

A new customs custom??

[Merlin1958]

I recently had a book shipped to a customer in Germany get pulled in customs and he was charged duty. I have never had this happen on any international shipment before. Maybe there is a trend.

Its a new custom.

A new customs custom??

Simon, is such a lovable "dork"!!! LOL LOL LOL

He is also in my "Fave Five" of sellers to deal with from this site. The other 4 will remain a mystery!! LOL

[Br!an]

I'm continuing a conversation we've been having on the J.K. Rowling thread here, since at this point it is now more properly posted here.

A little backstory; I purchased a copy of The Cuckoo's Calling from an eBay seller. The seller claimed the book was a first US printing. She sent a second US printing. She vigorously defends her assertion that it is a first printing despite all evidence to the contrary. Here is the conversation between us.

Br!an:

Which printing?

808browser123:

Hello. The book offered here is the first printing, first edition in the US.

Br!an:

Sold!

Please package it carefully.

Thanks,
Brian

Br!an:

Based on your response that the book for sale was a first printing I purchased the book. You sent me a second printing.

If you have a first printing I would still like to have it. However I will be returning this second printing. I can buy a second printing in local stores for $16.

808browser123:

"first printing in North America: April 2013" appears on the title and publication pages in the front of the book that I sent to you. The numbers 2 through 10 appear because editions 2 through 10 had not yet been printed.

Please look over the title and publication writing in the front of the book. I'll need to know if you decide to keep the book that I sent and close the eBay case, or if you want to send the book back to me for a $55 refund and close the case.

Case is opened

Br!an:

·The item doesn't match the seller's description.
·The item is wrong

"I even wrote you to verity it was a first printing and you stated that it was. You then sent a second printing. I would like you to pay the return shipping."

808browser123:

"Thanks for your message. The title page of the rare book that I sent you states "first printing in North America: April 2013." The numbers 2 through 10 appear because the second edition had not yet been printed. The book in hand is the first edition. I made a quick photocopy of the title page before the book shipped. Buyers should be happy. If you return the book that I sent then I will refund $55. My address is ############# Please let me know if you plan to keep the book after looking over the first pages with publication certification, or if you would like to return it for a $55 refund. 808browser123"


Br!an:

"It actually states, "First American Edition. April 2013" on the copyright page. The title page has no reference to the edition or printing. The first printing of the book has no reference to J.K. Rowling since she was writing under a pseudonym. Subsequent printings do mention her on the dustjacket. The copy you sent mentions Rowling. The print run is indicated by the numberline. The first printing has the full numberline including the "1". ie., 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 The second printing has the lowest number of "2". ie. 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 The third printing has the lowest number indicated by a "3". Etc. I am including a link to a reputable source that confirms my position. I will be mailing back your book. I will let you know how much the actual return shipping is so you can pay me back or you can provide the return label. http://blog.bookstellyouwhy.com/bid/...ko-o-s-Calling


808browser123:

"Because on Sept. 03, 2013, I sent you the First edition printed in North America: April 2013, with USPS shipping/tracking label ##################, I represented the item accurately without mistake. A return to me is your preference and I can refund $55. Let me know if this is agreeable. 808browser123"

Br!an:

"You still don't get it? You've admitted that the book you sent has the numberline ending with a 2 while the first printing ends with a 1. The book you sent mentions J.K. Rowling on the dustjacket while the first printing does not. The book you sent has all black binding and boards while the first printing had black and gray. The fact is you sent me a second printing your obtuseness notwithstanding. There is nothing you can say or do to change the fact that you sent a second printing. Pay the postage and learn from your mistake. I won't give you negative feedback. If you keep arguing with me I'll let eBay decide if you lied in your listing and leave appropriate feedback."

808browser123:

"The dust jacket is apart from the actual book. I described a first edition, printing in North America, as plainly written on the book title pages. I delivered it to you with tracking information. Thank you for your business. I can accept a return with a tracking label. "

Br!an:

“(facepalm) So let’s review. I wrote and asked “Which printing?” You replied it was a first printing. Instead of a first printing you sent a copy of the book with a numberline of 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2, references to J.K. Rowling on the dustjacket, and black binding w/black boards. You insist the book is a first printing regardless, and the dustjacket is not a part of the book. I have already shown it is a second printing based on the following facts: The first printing has a full numberline of 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1. Here’s a picture from another eBay seller of an actual first printing. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-The-Cuckoos-Calling-1st-Edition-1st-Printing-by-Robert-Galbraith-/00/s/MTA3MVgxNjAw/z/Iy8AAOxy87tSEWvG/$T2eC16hHJGMFFobuFofbBSEWvFvr(Q~~60_57.JPG The references to J.K. Rowling on the dustjacket removes any possibility it is a first printing. It was published under a pseudonym. Referring to Rowling on the dustjacket of the first printing would be absurd. The dustjacket is a part of the book. The color of the binding and boards of the first printing were gray and black. Here’s a picture from an honest eBay seller. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-The-Cuckoos-Calling-1st-Edition-1st-Printing-by-Robert-Galbraith-/00/s/MTA3MVgxNjAw/z/-B8AAOxyHWJSEWvR/$(KGrHqFHJE4FIDkvj(CjBSEWvRQP!!~~60_57.JPG There is obviously no point in continuing this conversation. Your refusal of the facts does not obviate reality. I am returning The Cuckoo’s Calling First Edition Second Printing to you today. The return shipping is $9.88. $55 purchase price plus $9.88 equals $64.88. If you are a decent person then you will refund $64.88 immediately upon receipt of the returned package. The return tracking number is XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ps. I would advise you to properly represent the book if you relist it for sale.”

Br!an:

"I'd also like to add that you advertised the book as brand new and it is not. It has been read, it has what appears to be a food stain and also what appears to be moisture damage. In my opinion this whole debacle is more akin to fraud than ignorance."

[Shannon]

Duh Brian, don'tcha know that it's a first edition!? Because, it's got like ... paper and stuff.

[George at C-Springs]

Yeah, and aren't the words in english? C'mon man, that's a dead giveaway, what the hells wrong with you!

[Pasiuk57]

Bad seller.....

[Jimimck]

Stupid seller.

[The Library Policeman]

Frustrating, bad, stupid seller.

[Br!an]

You can't make this stuff up.

Well you could, but they'd call it fiction.

[sgc1999]

I recently had a book shipped to a customer in Germany get pulled in customs and he was charged duty. I have never had this happen on any international shipment before. Maybe there is a trend.

Its a new custom.

A new customs custom??

Simon, is such a lovable "dork"!!! LOL LOL LOL

He is also in my "Fave Five" of sellers to deal with from this site. The other 4 will remain a mystery!! LOL

Thanks buddy

[herbertwest]

Log a complaint on paypal?

I previously ordered one of those pop vynil figurine of pennywise on amazon. the seller logged it as "shipped" on august 12.
As i didn't recieve yet, i sent him an email. the seller told me that he did set it up as "SHIPPED" because the official release date had been postponed (i checked online, it seems to be december now), and he had to set it as shipped otherwise amazon would have closed the order or something like this.
What a freaking way to do business ! Then in december at the official release date, i wouldnt be able to complain to amazon if i still havent recieved it (i believe someone have said not long ago that amazon has a 45 days window for logging a complaint).

he said that if i wanted to, he could refund me. I bloody hope!