The Prestige is the very definition of underrated.
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The Prestige is the very definition of underrated.
Not in this thread!
Feev, et al, I just, you know, walked out of the theater and it was completely gone. Didn't stay with me at all, didn't impress me, nada. It was fun to watch but then ... gone.
I'm not going to argue for TDK ( you all know I have issues with it ) but what I cannot deny is that it's stayed with me. That Heath's performance was amazing, and I hand bringing that out, allowing that to happen and him to explore that side of himself, I hand that to Nolan.
Unfortunately, I just don't think he's got the depth to go up against Spielberg.
Maybe part of it is that more people have seen Nolan's films more recently ... maybe folks need to go revisit some of SS's movies again.
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Quite.
I am very impressed by The Prestige. Very. I think I'll post in the Nolan thread - do we have a Nolan thread? I mean, the movie stayed with me and I like it more with every day - while (sorry guys) Memento has faded completely by now (though The Following still remains... unchanged).
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Nolan. I think his films are better crafted. Following, for instance, had none of the production values of anything Spielberg has done but was far more captivating to me.
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Spielburg. I did not even know who Nolan was before this contest.
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Really?
Wow, I have to say I'm really surprised. I mean the opening sequence of Saving Private Ryan might be the most realistic sequence ever put on film. That's not even a little memorable?
Honestly, pretty much all of Schindler's List is memorable. Not even for one second the day after you saw Schindler's List did you say, "Wow, that Ralph Fiennes did an amazing job?"
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Actually, some of the MOST memorable films, for me, were from S.S. including, but not limited to. Jaws, Indiana Jones, E.T., etc.
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Absolutely. Because Following is a director's movie, not a producer's.
Really.
No. Sorry, I can hardly remember what you're talking about. Maybe because I had seen a lot of Russian war movies, comparing to which anything Spielberg does will remain a Hollywood sugarcoated bigmac.Wow, I have to say I'm really surprised. I mean the opening sequence of Saving Private Ryan might be the most realistic sequence ever put on film. That's not even a little memorable?
No.Honestly, pretty much all of Schindler's List is memorable. Not even for one second the day after you saw Schindler's List did you say, "Wow, that Ralph Fiennes did an amazing job?"
I am very bitter about Schindler's List. I hope to post about it in detail sooner or later, because if I try to express myself in two words (as I have already done concerning this particular product) I fear I might be misunderstood - again. It is a movie I thoroughly hate.
Now, out of utter respect for you guys, I will watch Munich. I promise to be unbiased and watch it with a clear heart and an open mind.
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Damn, Nolan's lead has decreased dramatically ...
it is just plainly wrong
let alone that it is impossible
inconceivable
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Thank goodness.
As you know - I'm a Spielberg fan!
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
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"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November, The Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot.
I'll be damned if I know why...
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I can actually answer this fairly simply. His films have touched my life for many years. They have scared me, made me laugh, made me cry, made me think, made me catch my breath and hold it in anticipation. He is an excellent storyteller and his films have helped shape my enjoyment of cinema in general. I could no more go a year without seeing a Spielberg film, than I could go without breathing.
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November, The Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot.
a very good answer, Pam. I see it perfectly well now. Sorry I can't share it, but at least I started feeling a little better towards Mr.Spielberg - because of the good feelings you have for him. (my own opinion remains unchanged, but it's an entirely different thing)
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The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November, The Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot.
Jean, I'm interested to hear what you think of Munich. I didn't really like it for some reason. I'm not really sure why.
Also, give me the names of some of those Russian war movies. If they are as good as Saving Private Ryan, I might be interested.
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If Spielburg loses this poll, I'm going to boycott the polls for the rest of the contest.
I absolutely cannot conceive of how Spielburg could lose to Nolan.
Here are the first 5 top ten lists I came upon.
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3http://www.filmsite.org/directors.html
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These are just the first five lists I came upon in order that they popped up. They are by no means comprehensive, and no one list is representative, but I think that, taken together, they might have some meaning. They all have two things in common.
1. Steven Spielburg is on it, in many cases as the number one spot.
2. Nolan is not.
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1. I have watched only a half, and was very disappointed; I will comment on it when I'm through.
2. I will make up a list for you, somewhere in General Movie Discussion; I am not sure about as good as Saving Private Ryan - they are, well, different, nothing Hollywood about them.
Ditto on both counts.
I don't understand this. I have never bought this kind of reasoning, and never will. Lists are made up by people, and what gets on them is always what can somehow satisfy the average expectations, and the average taste of those who make the list, be it general public, or critics, or journalists; something the majority can agree upon, and I personally do not believe the majority is ever right; I do not believe in such a thing as a collective opinion, or a collective mind: it is by definition inclined to opt for the mediocre. It is very much the same as what we had when we voted the best movie of all times - we got Shawshank, which is by no means the best, but more or less satisfies us on the average. What is great, original, outstanding, is very often hard to swallow; also, there's such a thing as established opinion, which doesn't have to be the same as mine or anybody's around here. I am surprised to see some names on those lists (though, of course, they include some real great people, thank God), and most of my favorite directors are not on any of the lists you linked; so what? I love whom I love, in accordance with my own tastes and experience in both life and cinema; I hope everyone does the same, without appealing to any authorities.
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