Yes, he was born totally evil.
No, he wasn't. He was evil but there was good in him, too.
No, he wasn't. He was born good.
I can't vote because...
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
Roland and Mordred's palaver would have been absolutely cold, damn short and painful. It's better it never happened.
Roland would have understood.
you say true, except it doesn't matter if he could talk or not, he palavered with Flagg. And he may have eaten him, and he may have had hunger on his mind, but he saw in Walter/Flagg's mind that Flagg was going to kill him and cut off the foot with the mark so he could enter the tower.
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"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
Perhjaps I missed the whole intelligent conversation thing from Mordered.... But I am rereading the whole series again so I shall reserve my complete irrevocable judgement
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Palaver doesn't necessarily mean "intelligent" conversation. It just means "chat" or "conversation" or "talk".
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
So can Oy palaver then by that definition?
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In a very limited way with probably just Jake, yeah. I'd say so. But it just means chatting or having a talk.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
Well for some reason I got the impression that Mordred - other than talking in others' heads - had less of a vocabulary than Oy.
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mordred may have been capable of intelligent conversion but i dont think he was capable of civil conversation and the distinction between the two is vast
if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do
well that for certain we can agree on!
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I absolutely agree. And I think he could talk with Roland as well. They could work together amazingly when they went to save Jake.
We mustn't forget that when Mordred ate something he got their feelings and knowledge as well. (I hope I remember well.) So after eating Flagg he was absolutely capable of speaking as much as he wanted.
Roland would have understood.
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palaver is (to my knowledge) a civil discourse between anyone friends or enemies, since mordred could not be civil, he could not palaver roland palavered with the man in black who said (one of my favorite quotes) "friends and lovers lie endlessly, caught in the web of duty, only enemies speak the truth"
if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do
As my nick and sig might suggest, I'm a fan of Mordred
I can see some of myself in him (not the whole eating your mother part or transforming into a spider of course), and I believe there was some "good" in him, but his instincts and the lack of guidance became his undoing.
I don't like how he ate my favourite DT villain though
Some are born to sweet delight,
some are born to the endless night.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
You know, that's a good point. And what do babies in soap operas usually do once they're born? They hang around for a week, then disappear completely for a few months, at which point they return as 18-year-olds.
...which is what happened to Mordred, really. He was born, and there was a big scene at that moment; but afterward he served no real purpose except to follow the tet and grow into an adult really really quickly so that when the time came, he could launch a pathetic attack and die like a punk. You see Roland getting closer to the Tower, where the Crimson King is waiting for him, and Mordred is hot on his heels, and you expect some awesome showdown to take place there....but no. It was a whole lot of buildup and no follow-through. Like Jonas in some ways - a whole book is spent exposing and developing his character as some total physical and intellectual hardass; and then when the time comes he's just simply shot dead, disposed of as quickly and curtly as any minor throwaway character.
Isn't Mordred a creature of the Prim? Not directly obviously, but via his relation with Crimson King and with the Crimson Queen being his "grand-mother". They only want chaos, and are totally disgusted at the idea of peace.
Why do you keep talking about me as if I'm not in the room?
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"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
LOL thanks...
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