Me too, but I'd probably avoid the message boards afterwards to allow for serious, easy-flowing discussion.
Me too, but I'd probably avoid the message boards afterwards to allow for serious, easy-flowing discussion.
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I got the impression that Roland for whatever reason didn't like Patrick very much. He said the Billy Bumbler was worth more.
"The Constitution shall never be construed....to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms" (Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87)
Roland cried the names he had to cry. What he felt. We can ask questions... why he cried Hax and why he didn't cry Patrick but in fact we must accept that he cried out the names that were deep in his heart.
Roland would have understood.
I'm going to agree with Monte's first post.
All I meant was that Patrick didn't do much to influence Roland. He was just another person who was in his path to the Tower. Like many others that helped Roland get to where he needed to go, so did Patrick. Was Roland supposed to make a list and sit at the foot of the Tower and yell everyones names who crossed his path in the 1000 or so years it took him to get there? I personally don't think so.
Exactly, Letti. Well said. And thank you for saying it so nicely too.
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I always knew Sarah was "very special".
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
maybe Roland figured since Patrick was right there within sight of the Tower he didn't have to call his name because the Tower knew he was right there and saw him help. ...yes, i am being at least partially facetious.
At that moment... when he was there in front of the Tower I don't the he was conscious. He was no more than flesh with tons of oppressed feelings. He didn't think, he got rid of his chains that one was the freest moment of his life.
He cried out the names he found in his heart.
(I think Roland needs time to love.
I am sure he liked Patrick but they didn't spend enough time together. They met too late at the end of the path.)
Roland would have understood.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
all_hail... get outta my head.
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I don't think so. I am sure that list was something he kept thinking of, and repeating to himself all through the quest. However exhausted, confused, torn apart by contradictory feelings, he was still a gunslinger, who was taught, and who learned very well (the last survivor, remember?) to do exactly what he intended to; I am sure he could get it together at that most important moment of his life.
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When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
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I can, and easily. I am sure that's the way he was getting through all Vannay's subject... slowly but steadily
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
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It's interesting to see that you can imagine such a thing... we have never read about it in the books and for me Roland is simply not that tpye of guy who would repeat anything to himself.
If you ask me if he had to remember 15 numbers to get into somewhere he would never think of it just when he is there and he would think ka helps him to remember, but he would never repeat those numbers to himself. There (at the door) he would see how he can manage.
I think he passad Vannay's subject because he is not stupid and he always knew enough to be able to pass - no more. He wasn't be best... maybe he was the worst but he knew enough to pass.
Roland is the man of the moment to me.
Roland would have understood.
and what you said described your position (even if I don't agree with it) quite accurately without dragging in any superfluous entities.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!