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    The only sensible way to live in this world is without rules, and tonight you're gonna break your one rule ...
    What was it John Lennon said? Bigger than Jesus.

    Quote Originally Posted by Girlystevedave View Post
    I'm just nodding my head the whole time thinking "ok, stop now, please."

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    i think this may turn into a one horse race, as a character as much as i love Indy, its got to be Joker

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    Quote Originally Posted by candy View Post
    i think this may turn into a one horse race ...
    Don't be so sure! The Joker was leading by as many as 8 votes in the semi finals, and he just managed to beat McMurphy by one vote!

    And besides, I think there are just as many Indy lovers here as there are Jokerites
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    Yeah, but saying you like the Joker more than McMurphy is a lot different than saying you like him more than Indy. Really, you're selection of the contestants in each poll has determined the outcome just as much as how we all vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cozener View Post
    Really, you're selection of the contestants in each poll has determined the outcome just as much as how we all vote.
    Well, that's always a given. My point was that you never know which way the wheel will turn. In the first round, Blondie from The Good The Bad & Ugly absolutely dominated the competition, and in the next round he had virtually no votes.
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    For me, at this point, this match-up begs the question of whether the Joker really could in fact be a greater character than Hannibal Lecter, whom Indy bested earlier.
    This is tough. Jones probably is actually more realistic, though the Joker may be actually more profound... all of which is very odd, these dynamics of making a call between two characters each of which is basically a famed pop culture icon.

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    What it's really going to come to is how badly Heath Ledger is going to beat Indiana Jones. The fact that Ledger died, and The Joker was his final role is going to play against Ford's Indiana Jones. The tragedy of Ledger's death allowed the character to reach near mythic levels before the film ever came out. This combined with a really great acting perfomance by Ledger to create something that becomes akin to a revered role. Add to that the recentness of said role and I think Indiana Jones, a much older character that has always been part of the film world for a great many people, has zero chance of beating the juggernaut of Ledger's The Joker.

    Don't get me wrong, Ledger did a wonderful job with a truly iconic character. I just think that time has yet to tell if his character has longevity. I believe it does (Ledger's Joker reminds me in more than one way of Brandon Lee's Eric Draven), but I feel that we'll have a better feel for that after a decade has passed.

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    Indy is waaayyy more iconic than Heath Ledgers Joker. Whilst I agree Heath "killed the part" it was one and done. Indy has made it to 4 movies and is lexicon. Only choice IMHO. Now if you're talking "best Performance" all time well then that's a horse of a different color!!!
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    Heath only needed 1 movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girlystevedave View Post
    I'm just nodding my head the whole time thinking "ok, stop now, please."

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    After Brokeback Mountain, he needed several.
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    Joker, and I can't believe this is even close
    "So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Blaze View Post
    Joker, and I can't believe this is even close
    Me too.

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    Indy from Raiders = Badass awesome
    Indy from Temple = Little too much of a parody of himself, just as the movie was
    Indy from Last Crusade = Better than Temple, not as good as Raiders
    Indy from Crystal Skull = Haven't been intrigued enough from the trailers and friends' reviews to see it
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    it wasn't that bad.
    "So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."

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    How was it on my scale of the other Indy movies?
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    A whole lot more than riches and muscle.

    The hands of the many must join as one.
    And together we'll cross the river.

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    Ugh. This was tough for me but had to go with Indy as he's a character with more depth and personal history.

    Sam - I disagree with you about Heath... he made the character amazing, but most of that was the fact that Heath got lost in the character and was no longer Heath anymore. I believe that sincerely. ( and back of Brokeback, mister, I loved that movie )

    My Ranking of Indiana Jones movies :
    Last Crusade
    Raiders of the Lost Ark

    Temple of Doom and Crystal Skull ... Tied for being sucky. ( the movies, not the characters )

    Crystal Skull was just plain disappointing, and :meh: but it was nice seeing Marion again.

    Oh, yeah, and I had a dog named Indiana, after Indy.

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    Professor Henry Jones: That's his name.
    [points to himself] Professor Henry Jones: Henry Jones...
    [points to Indy] Professor Henry Jones: ...Junior.
    Indiana Jones: I like "Indiana."
    Professor Henry Jones: We named the *dog* Indiana.
    Marcus Brody: May we go home now, please?
    Sallah: The dog? [starts laughing] Sallah: You are named after the dog? HA HA HA...!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    How was it on my scale of the other Indy movies?
    Not as good as Temple of Doom. Not much about it was memorable. At least Temple had some memorable scenes (like the opening scene in the night club, excellent. And c'mon Turtle...don't you just want to snatch up Shortround and snuggle him to death? )

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    *gasp*

    My nomination made it to the finals?? And now you know who I'm voting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    Sam - I disagree with you about Heath... he made the character amazing, but most of that was the fact that Heath got lost in the character and was no longer Heath anymore. I believe that sincerely. ( and back of Brokeback, mister, I loved that movie )
    I think what I was trying to say got lost. I do agree with you Pam that the actor became lost in the character. What I was trying to say was that because that was his last role, and because it WAS so good, the role became revered by fans (and still is I think). People will always think of Ledger when they think of film versions of Joker, but they will always wonder just how good he could have been too. And his role will always be tied to that sort of feeling (at least until his fans become old people and forget who they are and who he was ).

    Btw, Indiana Jones is STILL the better character.
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    There will be another Joker in 20 years when some filmmakers decide to rehash Batman again. Not so sure that there will be another Indy, though. (but I still voted for Joker)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cozener View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Woofer View Post
    How was it on my scale of the other Indy movies?
    Not as good as Temple of Doom. Not much about it was memorable. At least Temple had some memorable scenes (like the opening scene in the night club, excellent. And c'mon Turtle...don't you just want to snatch up Shortround and snuggle him to death? )
    I loved the opening sequence, for sure. I loved it. It was classic, especially incorporating the Paramount logo. Vintage... as for ShortRound... No. Now Willie ( Kate Capshaw ) ... there I'd go to snuggle to death.

    Thinking on it now, I agree, Coz. Temple was better than Crystal Skull. I'm with you on that one now.

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    *gasp*

    My nomination made it to the finals?? And now you know who I'm voting.
    You're going to vote for Indiana Jones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turtlex View Post
    Sam - I disagree with you about Heath... he made the character amazing, but most of that was the fact that Heath got lost in the character and was no longer Heath anymore. I believe that sincerely. ( and back of Brokeback, mister, I loved that movie )
    I think what I was trying to say got lost. I do agree with you Pam that the actor became lost in the character. What I was trying to say was that because that was his last role, and because it WAS so good, the role became revered by fans (and still is I think). People will always think of Ledger when they think of film versions of Joker, but they will always wonder just how good he could have been too. And his role will always be tied to that sort of feeling (at least until his fans become old people and forget who they are and who he was ).

    Btw, Indiana Jones is STILL the better character.
    Oh. Then I agree completely.
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    OMG, worse than Temple?

    *weeps for the memory of Indy-that-was*
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    Much. much. worse. Sorry, Woofer.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cozener View Post
    There will be another Joker in 20 years when some filmmakers decide to rehash Batman again. Not so sure that there will be another Indy, though. (but I still voted for Joker)
    That's a good point. But why would it contradict your vote? Maybe it makes Indy more unique or distinctive... but at the same time, *sigh* doesn't it imply something about how great the Joker character is?

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    I loved every Indiana Jones movie. Even Crystal Skull. He has my vote all the way.

    Like others have said, Heath did a oneshot as the Joker. Now if we were just going with the character OF the Joker and not just Dark Knight, well I might have to ponder some because I love me some Joker.

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