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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    In today's events in the SK world:


    Stand, The (Uncut)-A miserable worm had been President ...(1989): 01-20-2021
    You know, I am Pro-Trump at least as far as his original ideas went and some of tghe things he accomplished for this country are good. Of course, even though the media and partisaism may have sparked it, a lot of the things he has done are indefensible. However, that is not why I chose to post this message. It sure seems to me that the Russian initiative to fuck with our election process was only phase one. And the liberal media has become, likely unwittingly, a vital accomplice in their tactic which I believe tghey have continued in the form of Phase two. The levels that BLM have been taken to were not fueled by the original, honest and forthright protesters but likely through the funding and inspiration of a continued Online dis-information campaign , The media (which for the large part has completely abandoned the basic ethics, research and work of true journalists of the past and sought only profits and their own agenda) and radical groups like ANTIFA.

    Sometimes I sit and wonder "How can I be the only one that rationally sees what is happening"? It seems so obvious if you were to take a step back and look at all the events and the reactions to those events that it is as plain as day and we have been falling for it like sheep to the slaughter whiled foriegn interests destroy our democracy from within. Now, I'd like to point out that I am all for change. Make no mistake there are many things that need to be addressed by this country, but the tactics being employed are not our own. This is a well thought out plan to destroy the USA from within and install a new government (Likely a facist one) right under our noses and no one seems to recognize that fact or be doing anything to stop it!! Instead we have consistently attacked the office of the President and the rest of our government without reasoned thought and planning. Folks here will likely tear me a new asshole over this post and I do not have the talents to properly convey what I am thinking such to the tune that I can defend it against people hell bent to pursue their opinions that I believe have been perverted by this, call it "Dis-information campaign from outside interests and countries (Likely Russia). All I truly wish to convey with this post is before we tear down the institutions in the name of change we stop, look around, research and come up with a comprehensive plan to institute that needed change. Make sure that "we the people" of the USA are the ones running the show and not the media (who serves only their own self interests), outside interests with their own objectives in mind and free range radicals exploiting the current climate for their own gain. Folks we need to stop and really THINK about how to proceed. Not run around tearing shit down or burning the countryside. I hope I have been able to properly convey my thoughts here. Change is needed and should implemented. a Coup De grace"(?) is not. We need to organize our thoughts, seek honest and ethical leaders and implement resonable and essential change from within. Let's not allow the KGB or Lord knows what other foriegn interests destroy our democracy which has existed for over 200 years and evolved along that timeline as well. Protesting is great, rioting is NOT!!

    Have at it folks!! lol



    Bill, I don't have the time or energy needed to refute every point you have made as wrong.
    Let me just say that I disagree with almost everything you have said.



    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958
    Sometimes I sit and wonder "How can I be the only one that rationally sees what is happening"?

    If 100 million people disagree with your singular opinion-you just could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    In today's events in the SK world:


    Stand, The (Uncut)-A miserable worm had been President ...(1989): 01-20-2021
    You know, I am Pro-Trump at least as far as his original ideas went and some of tghe things he accomplished for this country are good. Of course, even though the media and partisaism may have sparked it, a lot of the things he has done are indefensible. However, that is not why I chose to post this message. It sure seems to me that the Russian initiative to fuck with our election process was only phase one. And the liberal media has become, likely unwittingly, a vital accomplice in their tactic which I believe tghey have continued in the form of Phase two. The levels that BLM have been taken to were not fueled by the original, honest and forthright protesters but likely through the funding and inspiration of a continued Online dis-information campaign , The media (which for the large part has completely abandoned the basic ethics, research and work of true journalists of the past and sought only profits and their own agenda) and radical groups like ANTIFA.

    Sometimes I sit and wonder "How can I be the only one that rationally sees what is happening"? It seems so obvious if you were to take a step back and look at all the events and the reactions to those events that it is as plain as day and we have been falling for it like sheep to the slaughter whiled foriegn interests destroy our democracy from within. Now, I'd like to point out that I am all for change. Make no mistake there are many things that need to be addressed by this country, but the tactics being employed are not our own. This is a well thought out plan to destroy the USA from within and install a new government (Likely a facist one) right under our noses and no one seems to recognize that fact or be doing anything to stop it!! Instead we have consistently attacked the office of the President and the rest of our government without reasoned thought and planning. Folks here will likely tear me a new asshole over this post and I do not have the talents to properly convey what I am thinking such to the tune that I can defend it against people hell bent to pursue their opinions that I believe have been perverted by this, call it "Dis-information campaign from outside interests and countries (Likely Russia). All I truly wish to convey with this post is before we tear down the institutions in the name of change we stop, look around, research and come up with a comprehensive plan to institute that needed change. Make sure that "we the people" of the USA are the ones running the show and not the media (who serves only their own self interests), outside interests with their own objectives in mind and free range radicals exploiting the current climate for their own gain. Folks we need to stop and really THINK about how to proceed. Not run around tearing shit down or burning the countryside. I hope I have been able to properly convey my thoughts here. Change is needed and should implemented. a Coup De grace"(?) is not. We need to organize our thoughts, seek honest and ethical leaders and implement resonable and essential change from within. Let's not allow the KGB or Lord knows what other foriegn interests destroy our democracy which has existed for over 200 years and evolved along that timeline as well. Protesting is great, rioting is NOT!!

    Have at it folks!! lol



    Bill, I don't have the time or energy needed to refute every point you have made as wrong.
    Let me just say that I disagree with almost everything you have said.



    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958
    Sometimes I sit and wonder "How can I be the only one that rationally sees what is happening"?

    If 100 million people disagree with your singular opinion-you just could be wrong
    Perhaps, if you didn't have the energy you shouldn't have commented at all. Honestly, I can't understand how you could find it "wrong" to call for reasonable and rational thinking on some of the issues facing us today. However, as I said maybe it's my ineptitude in conveying my thoughts in writing that is at fault. I don't think "I" am the only one who see's that there are foriegn interests fueling these issues. I'm sure there are others who think about that possibility and still other agencies looking into it. You need only look more deeply into the tactics employed to mess with the election 4 years ago to see that the same strategy and tactics could be continued to be employed with great success.

    I find you to be (to say it as kindly as possible) displaying huge amounts of hubris to flatly state that my opinions as stated roughly are completely "Wrong". I could understand if you disagreed, as I'm sure most here will< but to state that they are "wrong" is well, "wrong" on your part. It also takes a huge amount of hubris to think that you and you alone speak for 100 million people. TAll that being said, I intend to drop the discussion. I just needed to get it off my chest and never expected any support from anyone here. The statements you have made, Jerome I find to be very uncharacteristic and perhaps the results of a bad day. Or maybe just my lack of talent in trying to convey my thoughts in writing. In any case, Peace be to you and time will tell in the end. I just hope that the end is a happy one and our enemies are not successful in their attempts to destroy our democracy from within.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post

    You know, I am Pro-Trump at least as far as his original ideas went and some of tghe things he accomplished for this country are good. Of course, even though the media and partisaism may have sparked it, a lot of the things he has done are indefensible. However, that is not why I chose to post this message. It sure seems to me that the Russian initiative to fuck with our election process was only phase one. And the liberal media has become, likely unwittingly, a vital accomplice in their tactic which I believe tghey have continued in the form of Phase two. The levels that BLM have been taken to were not fueled by the original, honest and forthright protesters but likely through the funding and inspiration of a continued Online dis-information campaign , The media (which for the large part has completely abandoned the basic ethics, research and work of true journalists of the past and sought only profits and their own agenda) and radical groups like ANTIFA.

    Sometimes I sit and wonder "How can I be the only one that rationally sees what is happening"? It seems so obvious if you were to take a step back and look at all the events and the reactions to those events that it is as plain as day and we have been falling for it like sheep to the slaughter whiled foriegn interests destroy our democracy from within. Now, I'd like to point out that I am all for change. Make no mistake there are many things that need to be addressed by this country, but the tactics being employed are not our own. This is a well thought out plan to destroy the USA from within and install a new government (Likely a facist one) right under our noses and no one seems to recognize that fact or be doing anything to stop it!! Instead we have consistently attacked the office of the President and the rest of our government without reasoned thought and planning. Folks here will likely tear me a new asshole over this post and I do not have the talents to properly convey what I am thinking such to the tune that I can defend it against people hell bent to pursue their opinions that I believe have been perverted by this, call it "Dis-information campaign from outside interests and countries (Likely Russia). All I truly wish to convey with this post is before we tear down the institutions in the name of change we stop, look around, research and come up with a comprehensive plan to institute that needed change. Make sure that "we the people" of the USA are the ones running the show and not the media (who serves only their own self interests), outside interests with their own objectives in mind and free range radicals exploiting the current climate for their own gain. Folks we need to stop and really THINK about how to proceed. Not run around tearing shit down or burning the countryside. I hope I have been able to properly convey my thoughts here. Change is needed and should implemented. a Coup De grace"(?) is not. We need to organize our thoughts, seek honest and ethical leaders and implement resonable and essential change from within. Let's not allow the KGB or Lord knows what other foriegn interests destroy our democracy which has existed for over 200 years and evolved along that timeline as well. Protesting is great, rioting is NOT!!

    Have at it folks!! lol

    I dont have the time to argue every single point, I am supposed to start working just now.
    But I put in bold the parts that made me laugh because they apply with the previous administration / or parts that I may disagree with.
    And just to be clear, I agree with the fact that there were some interferences at some point from outside, probably Russia. But a lot has also happened within and fueled by the orange guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin1958 View Post
    This is a well thought out plan to destroy the USA from within and install a new government (Likely a facist one) right under our noses and no one seems to recognize that fact or be doing anything to stop it!!
    We did do something to stop this, we voted Trump out of office.
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    Hey Kris, is that guy on your FB group going to pay up on his bets that Trump would still be in office? (sorry can't remember what thread it was talked about originally)
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    Quote Originally Posted by amd013 View Post
    Hey Kris, is that guy on your FB group going to pay up on his bets that Trump would still be in office? (sorry can't remember what thread it was talked about originally)
    It's this one.
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    BTW, after a visit to her cardiologist this morning, I had to take my mother to the hospital. She's suffering from abnormal heart rate (mostly too high), and most concerning was that she had fluid buildup in her lungs, as well as peripheral edema (swelling of the lower legs).
    I'd appreciate positive mojo being sent her way. Her name is Sarah.
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    All the best wishes to her! Hope her health improves and she's safe at her house soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    BTW, after a visit to her cardiologist this morning, I had to take my mother to the hospital. She's suffering from abnormal heart rate (mostly too high), and most concerning was that she had fluid buildup in her lungs, as well as peripheral edema (swelling of the lower legs).
    I'd appreciate positive mojo being sent her way. Her name is Sarah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
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    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    This is a perfect example of the mental acrobatics that some people are able to perform just to avoid admitting they were wrong. It’s easier to push forward believing stupider and stupider nonsense than it is to accept that they’ve been deceived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    It is hard to win an argument with a very intelligent person but it's impossible to win an argument with an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    BTW, after a visit to her cardiologist this morning, I had to take my mother to the hospital. She's suffering from abnormal heart rate (mostly too high), and most concerning was that she had fluid buildup in her lungs, as well as peripheral edema (swelling of the lower legs).
    I'd appreciate positive mojo being sent her way. Her name is Sarah.
    TIA
    Wishing her the best Jerome.

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    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    It is hard to win an argument with a very intelligent person but it's impossible to win an argument with an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    Here’s the thing about your friend – he thinks that he’s being entirely rational and reasonable in his believes. He thinks they are the result of evidence and logic. And, they might be.

    The problem is that if logic and reasoning is fed by misinformation, then you get crazy conclusions. The reasoning ability might be fine; but no amount of logic can overcome the golden rule of garbage in, garbage out. And if you filter the information you receive based on the conclusions of previous misinformation, then it becomes a perpetual cycle. And the people with the crazy conclusions can’t understand why everybody else is so lacking in logic and reasoning to see what’s right in front of them, when it’s not the reasoning ability that is the issue.

    This is something we are all vulnerable to. We all think our conclusions are the result of logic and reason. But we all filter the information we receive based on the conclusions we’ve already made. And we continue to trust those conclusions, because we feel those conclusions are ours, the result of our own reasoning ability and intelligence. To doubt those conclusions is to doubt our own ability to understand the world.

    That’s why the congressional Republicans supporting the myth of electoral fraud, and the illegitimacy of Biden‘s presidency, was so dangerous. Of course it led to insurrection; it was feeding misinformation into a group of people who were pre-conditioned to believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
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    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    It is hard to win an argument with a very intelligent person but it's impossible to win an argument with an idiot.
    Nice!

    That reminded me of, "You can't make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    We got some crazies in that group
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    It is hard to win an argument with a very intelligent person but it's impossible to win an argument with an idiot.
    Nice!

    That reminded me of, "You can't make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.”
    I've heard it as "We keep making things idiot proof but they just keep making better idiots."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    UPDATE: I had to delete this guy from my friends list. We were even starting to become pals. His other 'nut job' believers have taken some time away from FB while rants and raves. He REALLY thinks that Biden was arrested Monday night. That he is being allowed to make public appearances and Trump is still in office (Military is in control for now until it is public) . He says the United States of America is no longer and is now something else. The list goes on with silly shit... YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.. this guy was a normal, everyday Joe and hung with all my pals. He literlly has lost his mind with this Trump mentality.
    Here’s the thing about your friend – he thinks that he’s being entirely rational and reasonable in his believes. He thinks they are the result of evidence and logic. And, they might be.

    The problem is that if logic and reasoning is fed by misinformation, then you get crazy conclusions. The reasoning ability might be fine; but no amount of logic can overcome the golden rule of garbage in, garbage out. And if you filter the information you receive based on the conclusions of previous misinformation, then it becomes a perpetual cycle. And the people with the crazy conclusions can’t understand why everybody else is so lacking in logic and reasoning to see what’s right in front of them, when it’s not the reasoning ability that is the issue.

    This is something we are all vulnerable to. We all think our conclusions are the result of logic and reason. But we all filter the information we receive based on the conclusions we’ve already made. And we continue to trust those conclusions, because we feel those conclusions are ours, the result of our own reasoning ability and intelligence. To doubt those conclusions is to doubt our own ability to understand the world.

    That’s why the congressional Republicans supporting the myth of electoral fraud, and the illegitimacy of Biden‘s presidency, was so dangerous. Of course it led to insurrection; it was feeding misinformation into a group of people who were pre-conditioned to believe it.
    Misinformation and shoddy evidence should fail under a truly rational examination.

    However, we are so heavily propagandized that it becomes easy for us to believe lies. Especially when they conform to a previously accepted narrative.

    Many people exist in media and social media echo chambers which validate their preconceived ideas (confirmation bias) and elevate lies to truth through repetition. People simply start to accept as true things they've heard repeatedly or things that are accepted socially.

    We need to be open to modifying our conclusions. We need to know that almost everything we think we know is potentially wrong and can be better informed and understood.

    Most people aren't philosophers, or politicos, or logicians though. They are just trying to go with the flow. Unfortunately the flow is now circling the drain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    BTW, after a visit to her cardiologist this morning, I had to take my mother to the hospital. She's suffering from abnormal heart rate (mostly too high), and most concerning was that she had fluid buildup in her lungs, as well as peripheral edema (swelling of the lower legs).
    I'd appreciate positive mojo being sent her way. Her name is Sarah.
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    So, people started demonstrating in the city i live in.
    I can't remember when such a demonstration happened last time.
    The url below includes pictures and a video, and a lot of text in our dutch language.

    https://www.ed.nl/eindhoven/video-ei...digd~a916e84b/
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