Masochist!
What is this thread about? I don't even care anymore.
Originally Posted by obscurejude
What is this thread about? I don't even care anymore.
Last topic I remember in the thread involved Lisa and a whip.
Okay, seriously this is definitely among my favorite King books. And I agree with what Jayson, Lisa, and yourself said on the significance of the orgy/ending.
I am a little surprized
thank you very much for going back to the topic
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for the record, don't worry about the spoilers... it's marked in the title so anyone who enters is entering at their own risk!
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
I noticed that after I responded to Sus/Mia. Thanks Odetta.
Another point to discuss - by the end of IT, it would appear that Maturin is dead, how does this affect the Turtle's presence in DT?
it it a fact that he is dead? I can only remember It saying he is, and It, of course, is a born liar, just like Walter. I may have missed something, of course.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll go and dig it out to give you a quote in a minute, but Bill (I think) flies past the turtle and its just an empty shell.
very probable. I gather it happened in that part of the book where all the action took place... and you know action it's the thing that bores me most in books (second only to description of nature)
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here you go, this is what I put in the Tower Connection for IT:
It tells Bill, in the final battle in 1985, that the Turtle is dead - and as Richie goes to rescue Bill from reaching the deadlights, he senses that "there was something up ahead, some titanic corpse. The Turtle he heard Bill lamenting in his fading voice? Must be. It was only a shell, a dead husk."
thank you!
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No problem
I wonder though, if the spirit of the turtle lives on? The sway the skolpadda had for instance.
IT was the number one seller for fiction books in 1986. Released in September with a first print run of 860,000 copies, it also had the novelty of being the first SK book (The Running Man-Richard Bachman was the true first), to have a UPC bar code.
Contemporary reception:
Full articleEven before its official September publication date, critics heralded the 1138 page book as the next King bestseller. Eric Johnson at Library Journal in August 1986 said "King is a born storyteller, and It will undoubtedly be in high demand among his fans" (171). Most of the contemporary reviewers said It followed King’s formula of horror and childish fun. In a cover story on Stephen King, Time magazine reviewer Stefan Kanfer said the novel "proves once again that [King] is the indisputable King of horror, a demon fabulist who raises gooseflesh for fun and profit" (74). In addition to the requisite thrills of the novel, the most favorable praise from reviewers stemmed from the descriptions of the Losers Club, their childhood trials, and their ability to outsmart the monster. "This is the pleasure of the book—the vindication of the adolescent heroes and the destruction of their enemies" (Rose, 103). Despite this, Rose also claims King’s writing style may not be able to stand up to the task of a partially serious novel that tackles the everyday horrors of life such as bullies, abusive parents, and racism. He says "He doesn’t really have the literary strengths necessary for straight novel-writing" (103). David Gates, Newsweek book reviewer, agreed that King may not have the literary talent necessary to carry off the epic story of seven small-town losers saying "Stephen King’s apparent desire to be a literary heavy hitter weighs down his already elephantine new novel" (82). However, he too said the saving grace of King’s novel is the "simple scenes in which King evokes childhood in the 1950s" (82).
The long length of the book also gave some reviewers pause when praising the novel. Although Johnson liked the book and realized its soon-to-be realized popularity, he expressed some criticism about the book’s size. "…There is enough material in this epic for several novels and stories, and the excessive length and numerous interrelated flashbacks eventually become wearying and annoying" (171). Walter Wager of the New York Times Book Review had even harsher words to describe the novel, saying "Casting aside discipline…he has piled just about everything he could think of into this book and too much of each thing as well" (9). Although most reviewers criticized some aspect of the novel, each reviewer understood that the book would be loved by fans.
The King Collectibles Catalog article
Who needs critics!?
Thanks though Jerome, you always find really interesting articles
If I ever decide to read a book based on what those critic assholes say, somebody please kill me. Good or bad review, I ignore them all. I can decide for myself whether I should read a book or not.
Readers of The Modern Library voted It #84 on the top 100 novels of all time list. The Stand at #24 was the only other King book on the list.
Interesting, thanks Jerome! I would have thought they might be further down the list though. Hmm.
It was the scariest book I've ever read. I was a wreck reading that every night. *shiver*
The only other King book to freak me out was that one part in The Shining
Spoiler:
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sugarpop <3
It scared the life out of me the first time I read it, but on the reread I was prepared and noticed alot more about the story.
I had a very minor but pretty freaky experience when reading IT for the first time. I was only 12 or 13 at the time and I was already scared by the whole story.
There is a part in the story when Henry Bowers (the older) escapes from Juniper Hill and he is on the run. I don't remember exactly where he is but he is on the street and hears police sirens and he quickly hides from them. I kid you not, at the EXACT moment I read that line, a police cruiser zipped past our house, light/sirens blazing. It scared the living shit of me. I had to put the book down and stop reading for the night.
I've had one another similar experience like that during a King book but I won't share it here because that would be off-topic.
Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.
I was about the same age as Monte when I read IT. I remember having a dream that was so scary one night that I literally fell out of my bed.
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