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    :radioactive: Rose Madder - Let's Discuss! *SPOILERS*

    i feel a bit odd posting this because im a guy but, i really liked RoseMadder and felt that it deserves its own thread atleast. the book is not for the faint of heart, and is rather graphic even by King's standards, but its really good seriously worth a read.

    soooo........................... opening comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanzouNorak View Post
    i feel a bit odd posting this because im a guy but, i really liked RoseMadder and felt that it deserves its own thread atleast. the book is not for the faint of heart, and is rather graphic even by King's standards, but its really good seriouly worth a read.

    soooo........................... opening comments?

    I love the assumption that to be a fan of Rose Madder you have to be a chick. I'm a huge fan of this book and thanks for starting the thread. Now when does the crying and hugging and talking about feelings start? *goes to get the tea*
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    hey I love this book, count it amongst my favorite King books, and I'm a dude too.

    but no hugging and crying here, Homie don't play that.
    "So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."

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    I wonder if we are ever going to see any lady here

    <- loves Rose Madder, too

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    I read Rose Madder back when it was published, and did not really get a feel for it at all. Unlike almost all my King books - I never bothered with a re-read, for many years.
    Then last year I re-read it .... and thought it was extremely good! Don't know what my first-time-round perspective was - but it was faulty. Would now count this as one of Kings good ones (which is almost all of them!)


    ok - that's 5 men all voting a big 'yes', and not a woman in sight.
    'Rose Madder's rep is taking a BIG hit here!
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    I loved Rose Madder - its one of my favourites.
    When I finished, I went straight back to the begining and started again

    It gets a re-read at least once a year - and I'm a girl

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    a girl! at last


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    Okay, I'm a girl....and I really enjoyed Rose Madder. I've actually re-read it a couple of times. To this day, I still think Norm was one of the sickest fictional monsters ever created. And makes any man seem like Prince Charming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girlystevedave View Post
    I still think Norm was one of the sickest fictional monsters ever created.
    For me he is the sickest fictional human monsters ever made...totally agreed.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManOfWesternesse View Post
    I read Rose Madder back when it was published, and did not really get a feel for it at all. Unlike almost all my King books - I never bothered with a re-read, for many years.
    Then last year I re-read it .... and thought it was extremely good! Don't know what my first-time-round perspective was - but it was faulty.
    Brian, the same happened with me and Rose Madder. The first time I hated it and figured I would never read it again. I waited a few years and decided to give it another try. Now I can't figure out why I didn't like it the first time. It's def a great book, and I agree with Amanda and Matthew, Norm is one twisted scary individual.

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    The beginning of this book has to be one of the most brutal scenes I've ever read. And, as you all said, Norman is a true monster.

    That said, I feel King "lost his way" in this book. I think it would have been MUCH more powerful had the supernatural scenes been omitted and become a straight crime novel. The transition from the true monster, Norman, to "Ze Bull" just didn't ring true with me. Imagine it as a Richard Bachman book!

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    I love Rose Madder. I have to buy the book and reread it when money problems straighten out

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhanic View Post
    The beginning of this book has to be one of the most brutal scenes I've ever read. And, as you all said, Norman is a true monster.

    That said, I feel King "lost his way" in this book. I think it would have been MUCH more powerful had the supernatural scenes been omitted and become a straight crime novel. The transition from the true monster, Norman, to "Ze Bull" just didn't ring true with me. Imagine it as a Richard Bachman book!

    John
    sadly, I do not agree with you, even though I usually do.

    I think Ferdinand MADE the fucken ending.
    "So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."

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    The beginning of this book has to be one of the most brutal scenes I've ever read. And, as you all said, Norman is a true monster.
    Agreed

    That said, I feel King "lost his way" in this book. I think it would have been MUCH more powerful had the supernatural scenes been omitted and become a straight crime novel. The transition from the true monster, Norman, to "Ze Bull" just didn't ring true with me. Imagine it as a Richard Bachman book!

    John
    Don't agree. The supernatural element was one of the things I love about this book. Especially the painting changing bit by bit into a window into another world, and the trips she made to the temple. Just wonderful stuff.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    I still love that it took something as simple as that single drop of blood to make her change her life completely. It was sick...yet beautiful IMO.

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    This was the book that got me into stephen king in the first place. and yes i have a penis too.
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    I didn't find this book that brutal or upsetting as I sometimes find Kings work. Take Geralds Game for instance, that's the one book that I think few people have the guts to read straight through without feeling sick in their stomach.

    I think that the pseudo reality of Rose Madder made that book lose a bit of the brutality for me. Don't get me wrong, Norman was a lovingly disturbed character, and a perfect monster of the tale. I did enjoy the book, but I can't say I felt very excited after having read it.

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    I read it a couple of years ago and I wasn't very enthusiastic about it, so it got put on the shelf among all the other books and was practically forgotten.

    Then a couple of months ago I was talking to a friend who likes it and he encouraged me to give it a second go. I did...and that time round, I absolutely loved it and is become one of my favourite books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordh View Post
    Take Geralds Game for instance, that's the one book that I think few people have the guts to read straight through without feeling sick in their stomach.
    sick of boredom, maybe. GG is slow but entertaining, but it's not one of his best. Rose Madder is.
    "So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."

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    I might have to give this book another shot, as several of you enjoyed it on a reread. I read it when it first came out, and did not care for it whatsoever.

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    I read it when it came out also, and loved it then, but loved it even more with my most recent reading. Which was actually a listening. The audio book is one of the best I've ever listened to.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Maybe I'll give that a shot then.

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    i love rose madder.
    norman is one sick bastard, but not the sickest i've ever encountered (sadly).
    i hated the way ended though. i could have lived with out the remembrance tree or whatever the crap it was called.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bethany View Post
    i could have lived with out the remembrance tree or whatever the crap it was called.
    Why?
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    because the whole rage issue and the tree wasn't needed.
    "So many vows. They make you swear and swear. Defend the King, obey the King, obey your father, protect the innocent, defend the weak. But what if your father despises the King? What if the King massacres the innocent? It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or another."

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