well of course i did. i see why he felt he had to, but i still felt bad for the people he killed.Originally Posted by Letti
well of course i did. i see why he felt he had to, but i still felt bad for the people he killed.
very clever indeed; I am afraid a little too clever for me: I fail to see the point. Is it that we should abandon all attempts to make ourselves understood? But where will we get without at least trying to clarify our notions? Let it be type A, type B, whatever, but let's differ, or we're bound to repeat the same things forever without getting anywhere at all.Yes, such as love, love, and let us not forget love.it's how I understand it. For other types of love, there are other words.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think I agree with you, Jean. To me love is something that endures. These other types of attractions - they're simply infatuation, affection, flirtation, obsession, comfort, lust - they are branches from the same tree, but they're not love as I define it.
No i didn't, because she asked to be killed, so Roland did it, it's his nature to do so, if someone asked me to kick them in the teeth i'd do it, and wouldn't feel sorry for them, because they asked for it. In WOTC, a certain man addicted to a certain substance (not Eddie) mentions a quote from AA, "Be careful what you pray for, because you just might get it", and this quote can be used here.
2:45 am- 11th February 2008- I Finished The Dark Tower
I guess you read the revised Gunslinger, am I right?
Roland would have understood.
very clever indeed; I am afraid a little too clever for me: I fail to see the point. Is it that we should abandon all attempts to make ourselves understood? But where will we get without at least trying to clarify our notions? Let it be type A, type B, whatever, but let's differ, or we're bound to repeat the same things forever without getting anywhere at all.Yes, such as love, love, and let us not forget love.it's how I understand it. For other types of love, there are other words.
Well, the point is that IMO all love is the same. I see no need to seperate them or label them. Even if it's a short term thing that doesn't last that doesn't mean it wasn't love. In addition (presumably) you love your mother, your father, brothers, sisters, and friends. It is in fact the same feeling/emotion. It just manifests itself in different ways and sometimes degrees. I just see no reason nor need for different labels for what is essentially the same (at least in my mind).
May I take that one step further?
IMO ....Love is not a feeling at all,
but an action!!
The answer is within
all matter is energy, all energy is GOD
I'm with Alinda, a declaration of commitment, evidenced by sacrifice.
Yeah i did, how is the none revised any different?
2:45 am- 11th February 2008- I Finished The Dark Tower
Various differences, such as in the original Allie begs Roland not to kill her.
Ohhhh.... Were can i get hold of a none revised version?
2:45 am- 11th February 2008- I Finished The Dark Tower
I, though, see a necessity to find different names for something that manifests itself in different ways/degrees, because no communication is possible without it, especially when we start discussing subtle things; especially when we don't even see each other and words are the only thing we have. I believe in words a lot; and I see no other means but words to conduct a successful discussion (even if names or notions are skilfully put down by labeling them as "labels"). There are different names for different people: they are men, women, children; more names come up when what they have in common (humanity) manifests itself in more differents ways; there are different names for different genres of literature or different flowers; as Lisa
said,
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, if you're just wanting a reading copy you could easily find a mass marketpaperback or trade on ebay or possibly a used book store.
I also believe in words alot. The problem is for me love is just love and can take many of the forms or aspects Lisa mentioned. Still it is just love...and it is all love. However, for arguments sake I won't debate the details. Let love be what it is for all. I'll only use my definition if the need arises for me to address something specific. Just know when I speak of it I speak of an allinclusive love without boundaries. Off topic, but I also don't believe in genres.I, though, see a necessity to find different names for something that manifests itself in different ways/degrees, because no communication is possible without it, especially when we start discussing subtle things; especially when we don't even see each other and words are the only thing we have. I believe in words a lot; and I see no other means but words to conduct a successful discussion (even if names or notions are skilfully put down by labeling them as "labels"
I didn't say I believed in genres; but yes, it's a whole another story which I hope we could develop later elsewhere
We must differ between "love", as a general source of that light, and its various manifestations; in this sense I would agree that love is one and indivisible; but its manifestations are too different to be blanket-covered by one word, so I think we could agree to give some qualifications when we talk about the manifestations.
Closer to the topic (although we're still not off: concept-defining is always important, whatever is discussed): in Allie/Roland case I personally can't see any manifestation of anything that for me comes under the category of "love", whether I understand it as a noumenal or a phenomenal concept.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark - you could probably still order the original edition of The Gunslinger from your local Waterstones or wherever
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