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    Quote Originally Posted by fitomad View Post
    This cover reminds me "The Institute" style.
    Reminds me of that as well, although with more (and interesting) detail, as Mae pointed out. I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberGhostface View Post
    Complete with a classic Kingspoiler!
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    The temp UK one is, according to amz :

    It seems that a bike is involved in the plot

    Or a wheelchair.
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    Now available to purchase at THE BOOK DEPOSITORY if you are in the USA and wish to order the UK trade PB and HC editions:

    HC, Hodder & Stoughton, 9-5-23, 9781399712910
    PB, Hodder & Stoughton, 9-5-23, 9781399712927
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberGhostface View Post
    There’s not much to address, your criticisms were just attacks on King’s politics (he’s “an old white liberal”) and a bizarre statement that King writes minorities as ‘not corrupted by "civilization" and therefore living in harmony with nature etc’ which doesn’t apply to any minority character King has written in decades, if at all.
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    Can't say I'm shocked you're unable to back up your bizarre statement of King espousing the belief that minorities are 'not corrupted by "civilization" and therefore living in harmony with nature etc’ or that you couldn't think of any King character from the last twenty years that it might apply to.
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    The UK cover has landed on amazon

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    That confirms it's a bike wheel on the other cover at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberGhostface View Post
    Can't say I'm shocked you're unable to back up your bizarre statement of King espousing the belief that minorities are 'not corrupted by "civilization" and therefore living in harmony with nature etc’ or that you couldn't think of any King character from the last twenty years that it might apply to.
    There is nothing bizarre about it unless you don't understand the concept. King's characterization of minorities and children are an extension of the stereotype "noble savage" from literature with a leftist patriarchal bent. As a result, his minority and child characters more often have "special" powers or second sight than others. His books are full of such examples. Who has the "shining"?

    "In Western anthropology, philosophy, and literature, the noble savage is a stock character who is uncorrupted by civilization. As such, the noble savage symbolizes the innate goodness and moral superiority of a primitive people living in harmony with Nature."

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    You said King writes minorities as 'not corrupted by "civilization" and therefore living in harmony with nature etc’ and when I ask for one example from the last twenty years of a minority character that fits that description, all you can come up with is King’s use of psychic powers.

    Never mind that that has nothing to do with the noble savage concept.

    Never mind that you listed Holly as an example and she doesn’t *have* any powers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyberGhostface View Post
    You said King writes minorities as 'not corrupted by "civilization" and therefore living in harmony with nature etc’ and when I ask for one example from the last twenty years of a minority character that fits that description, all you can come up with is King’s use of psychic powers.

    Never mind that that has nothing to do with the noble savage concept.

    Never mind that you listed Holly as an example and she doesn’t *have* any powers!
    I gave you a specific example. In fact, it is a leitmotiv of King novels. LOL. The Stand. The Shining. Firestarter. Carrie. The Institute. Whew.

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    No, you didn’t. You’re conflating ‘kids with psychic powers’ with minorities being depicted as “noble savages” which makes no sense.

    How does “the noble savage symbolizes the innate goodness and moral superiority of a primitive people living in harmony with Nature” even begin to describe a character like Carrie for example?

    There’s a whole list of examples of this trope here and none of your examples fit in with them.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NobleSavage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bev Vincent View Post
    Not much of a review. Sounds like he just copied the blurb on the jacket.

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    Tune in on August 3rd at 2pm EST to watch Stephen King read from his new novel HOLLY, coming September 5th!


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    Can anybody confirm that there is an excerpt of "Holly" in the mass paperback version of "Fairy Tale"?


    I feel like someone said so a few weeks ago, not sure whether it was the uk or us paperback, but not sure and can't find the info on amazon
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    There's nothing in the US Scribner June 2023 trade paperback.
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    According to Lilja, it's in the mmp of Billy Summers, not Fairy Tale.

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    Just checked my June 2023 small paperback from Pocket Books of BILLY SUMMERS, and yes, it has the HOLLY excerpt.
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    There's also a Holly excerpt on the Fairy Tale Paperback edition. It also includes an edited and adapted version of Stephen King's talk during the Chaltenham Literature Festival.
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    That's awesome Justine is narrating! She nailed Holly in the MM series.
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    Esquire has an excerpt

    This article appeared in the September 2023 issue of Esquire

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    New excerpt from Entertainment Weekly

    https://ew.com/books/holly-stephen-k...ive-excerpt-2/
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