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    Man I went on Reddit last night and THIS WAS ROASTED. I didn't think it was that bad and I know nothing of the books. But my goodness... there was so much hate for this trailer. I read about 100+ comments under the post and only one or two were ok. The rest were scathing... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    Man I went on Reddit last night and THIS WAS ROASTED. I didn't think it was that bad and I know nothing of the books. But my goodness... there was so much hate for this trailer. I read about 100+ comments under the post and only one or two were ok. The rest were scathing... lol
    Such as what? Did you watch the above video from a noted Dune expert? He loved it.

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    Man I went on Reddit last night and THIS WAS ROASTED. I didn't think it was that bad and I know nothing of the books. But my goodness... there was so much hate for this trailer. I read about 100+ comments under the post and only one or two were ok. The rest were scathing... lol
    Such as what? Did you watch the above video from a noted Dune expert? He loved it.
    Just that it looked horrible. They HATED the Pink Floyd.. that was a recurring 'issue'. They hated the sombre tone. They hated the focus of the trailer and thought it would have done better to show other characters. Again, I only stumbled on it and am sharing here. I don't yet know what I think. BUT many did say on the comments... that the trailer for Blade Runner 2049 (only one of his films I didn't like) and for Arrival ( I loved it) sucked and they loved those so MANY had faith. They were just slamming the choice of the trailer. One guy even said that the studio didn't do it themselves... but hired out a company to do it and that could be why it was so bad... but he provided no proof.
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    Denis the GOAT about to give us another sci-fi masterpiece. Loved the tone and feel, and holy s what a superb cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    Man I went on Reddit last night and THIS WAS ROASTED. I didn't think it was that bad and I know nothing of the books. But my goodness... there was so much hate for this trailer. I read about 100+ comments under the post and only one or two were ok. The rest were scathing... lol
    I find Reddit to frequently be an echo chamber of mewling children so I take what I find there with a half grain of salt. I generally leave subs I follow quickly as I get tired of all the crying. Though so far the Dark Tower sub is pretty enjoyable. In fact, now that I think about it, as I’ve sunk into my obsession with the Tower I’ve found the community to be one of the more positive and embracing around. These forums have reinforced that 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    They HATED the Pink Floyd.. that was a recurring 'issue'.
    Anyone who hates Pink Floyd is not to be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pere Jere View Post
    I find Reddit to frequently be an echo chamber of mewling children so I take what I find there with a half grain of salt. I generally leave subs I follow quickly as I get tired of all the crying.
    Pretty much this. There's a cadre of viewers poised to accuse any big movie as being "too woke" or "not faithful to the source material", so you will get that regardless of what's actually in the trailer. I've heard complaints about Liet-Kynes being made a female character (male in the book), and the choice of the word "crusade" (rather than the novel's use of "jihad"). Personally, neither of those things bother me in the least.

    (That's not to say that no criticism is valid; just that the presence of that criticism isn't an indication that the film will be badly received)

    BTW Kris, as said before, this film will be cover the first half of Dune, the first book in the series. There will be a second film to complete the first book. There are six books altogether in the Dune series, but the first one stands alone enough that they could make these two films and call it a day, without the story feeling incomplete.

    (If reading the books, though, I would *highly* recommend reading all six. There are developments and complexities in later volumes that are really wonderful.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
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    I find Reddit to frequently be an echo chamber of mewling children so I take what I find there with a half grain of salt. I generally leave subs I follow quickly as I get tired of all the crying.
    Pretty much this. There's a cadre of viewers poised to accuse any big movie as being "too woke" or "not faithful to the source material", so you will get that regardless of what's actually in the trailer. I've heard complaints about Liet-Kynes being made a female character (male in the book), and the choice of the word "crusade" (rather than the novel's use of "jihad"). Personally, neither of those things bother me in the least.

    (That's not to say that no criticism is valid; just that the presence of that criticism isn't an indication that the film will be badly received)

    BTW Kris, as said before, this film will be cover the first half of Dune, the first book in the series. There will be a second film to complete the first book. There are six books altogether in the Dune series, but the first one stands alone enough that they could make these two films and call it a day, without the story feeling incomplete.

    (If reading the books, though, I would *highly* recommend reading all six. There are developments and complexities in later volumes that are really wonderful.)

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    I find Reddit to frequently be an echo chamber of mewling children so I take what I find there with a half grain of salt. I generally leave subs I follow quickly as I get tired of all the crying.
    Pretty much this. There's a cadre of viewers poised to accuse any big movie as being "too woke" or "not faithful to the source material", so you will get that regardless of what's actually in the trailer. I've heard complaints about Liet-Kynes being made a female character (male in the book), and the choice of the word "crusade" (rather than the novel's use of "jihad"). Personally, neither of those things bother me in the least.

    (That's not to say that no criticism is valid; just that the presence of that criticism isn't an indication that the film will be badly received)

    BTW Kris, as said before, this film will be cover the first half of Dune, the first book in the series. There will be a second film to complete the first book. There are six books altogether in the Dune series, but the first one stands alone enough that they could make these two films and call it a day, without the story feeling incomplete.

    (If reading the books, though, I would *highly* recommend reading all six. There are developments and complexities in later volumes that are really wonderful.)

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    Think if good enough we could get them all? All 6 books?
    That would be great. Some of them are a bit tough to film, I would imagine, but it could be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post
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    I find Reddit to frequently be an echo chamber of mewling children so I take what I find there with a half grain of salt. I generally leave subs I follow quickly as I get tired of all the crying.
    Pretty much this. There's a cadre of viewers poised to accuse any big movie as being "too woke" or "not faithful to the source material", so you will get that regardless of what's actually in the trailer. I've heard complaints about Liet-Kynes being made a female character (male in the book), and the choice of the word "crusade" (rather than the novel's use of "jihad"). Personally, neither of those things bother me in the least.

    (That's not to say that no criticism is valid; just that the presence of that criticism isn't an indication that the film will be badly received)

    BTW Kris, as said before, this film will be cover the first half of Dune, the first book in the series. There will be a second film to complete the first book. There are six books altogether in the Dune series, but the first one stands alone enough that they could make these two films and call it a day, without the story feeling incomplete.

    (If reading the books, though, I would *highly* recommend reading all six. There are developments and complexities in later volumes that are really wonderful.)

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    Think if good enough we could get them all? All 6 books?
    That would be great. Some of them are a bit tough to film, I would imagine, but it could be done.
    God Emperor of Dune in particular would be tough to film in part because it’s separated from both the third and fifth novels by centuries. A great book but of the six original it might work best as a scifi drama mini-series bridging the films’ eras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandito View Post
    Denis the GOAT about to give us another sci-fi masterpiece. Loved the tone and feel, and holy s what a superb cast.
    Anybody roasting the trailer is not a fan of film. Anybody who knows anything would know that it's directed by Denis. That alone means the film should be given a chance. Plain and simple. Reddit is a cesspool anyway. That and the fact it's impossible to follow a conversation.
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    Pretty much this. There's a cadre of viewers poised to accuse any big movie as being "too woke" or "not faithful to the source material", so you will get that regardless of what's actually in the trailer. I've heard complaints about Liet-Kynes being made a female character (male in the book), and the choice of the word "crusade" (rather than the novel's use of "jihad"). Personally, neither of those things bother me in the least.

    (That's not to say that no criticism is valid; just that the presence of that criticism isn't an indication that the film will be badly received)

    BTW Kris, as said before, this film will be cover the first half of Dune, the first book in the series. There will be a second film to complete the first book. There are six books altogether in the Dune series, but the first one stands alone enough that they could make these two films and call it a day, without the story feeling incomplete.

    (If reading the books, though, I would *highly* recommend reading all six. There are developments and complexities in later volumes that are really wonderful.)

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    Think if good enough we could get them all? All 6 books?
    That would be great. Some of them are a bit tough to film, I would imagine, but it could be done.
    God Emperor of Dune in particular would be tough to film in part because it’s separated from both the third and fifth novels by centuries. A great book but of the six original it might work best as a scifi drama mini-series bridging the films’ eras.
    Agreed. I think GEoD might work as a standalone movie or miniseries. It is a sequel to the third volume in the series, but it could work as an independent tale set in the same universe.

    (GEoD is great, by the way. It might be my favourite of the series, although Dune Messiah is also pretty great.)

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    Pretty much this. There's a cadre of viewers poised to accuse any big movie as being "too woke" or "not faithful to the source material", so you will get that regardless of what's actually in the trailer. I've heard complaints about Liet-Kynes being made a female character (male in the book), and the choice of the word "crusade" (rather than the novel's use of "jihad"). Personally, neither of those things bother me in the least.

    (That's not to say that no criticism is valid; just that the presence of that criticism isn't an indication that the film will be badly received)

    BTW Kris, as said before, this film will be cover the first half of Dune, the first book in the series. There will be a second film to complete the first book. There are six books altogether in the Dune series, but the first one stands alone enough that they could make these two films and call it a day, without the story feeling incomplete.

    (If reading the books, though, I would *highly* recommend reading all six. There are developments and complexities in later volumes that are really wonderful.)

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    Think if good enough we could get them all? All 6 books?
    That would be great. Some of them are a bit tough to film, I would imagine, but it could be done.
    God Emperor of Dune in particular would be tough to film in part because it’s separated from both the third and fifth novels by centuries. A great book but of the six original it might work best as a scifi drama mini-series bridging the films’ eras.
    Agreed. I think GEoD might work as a standalone movie or miniseries. It is a sequel to the third volume in the series, but it could work as an independent tale set in the same universe.

    (GEoD is great, by the way. It might be my favourite of the series, although Dune Messiah is also pretty great.)

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    See, I don't think the Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) books are dense at all. By breaking up each chapter with a different character perspective, I think it makes what could be a tough read into a really manageable one.
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    I think Dune is probably the most accessible of the six. Start with that. The others can be heavy going, particularly the first time through, so if you find Dune too dense, you will probably bounce off the others.

    They are very satisfying and thought-provoking, though. Dare I say it, the sequels make Dune better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Servant View Post
    See, I don't think the Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) books are dense at all. By breaking up each chapter with a different character perspective, I think it makes what could be a tough read into a really manageable one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
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    See, I don't think the Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) books are dense at all. By breaking up each chapter with a different character perspective, I think it makes what could be a tough read into a really manageable one.
    They are. I can asssure you I am not alone in that thought process either.
    I thought Game of Thrones was an easier read than Dune. That might be partly because I prefer fantasy to SF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
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    See, I don't think the Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire) books are dense at all. By breaking up each chapter with a different character perspective, I think it makes what could be a tough read into a really manageable one.
    They are. I can asssure you I am not alone in that thought process either.
    They're dense with character and locations, but the prose is pretty straight forward.
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    I broke down and watched the trailer. It looks very promising, indeed.

    It looks pretty close to the source material - and a few shots are reminiscent of the 1984 movie, although that may just be because the scenes themselves are so identifiable.

    I like the feel of the movie, but I wonder whether it will fare the same as Blade Runner 2049, where it will be atmospheric and slow moving, but not a box office hit. I hope moviegoers will have the patience to give it a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack View Post

    I like the feel of the movie, but I wonder whether it will fare the same as Blade Runner 2049, where it will be atmospheric and slow moving, but not a box office hit. I hope moviegoers will have the patience to give it a chance.
    I have felt the same way since the film was announced. Dune is not a property that is well known by mainstream audiences.

    I think they really need to play up the romance angle. Young women go crazy for Chalamet, they need to feed into that. Obviously, the virus has added a whole other layer of concern when it comes to the box office.

    I do think Dune will get pushed to 2021 like Wonder Woman. Reports have mentioned that WB doesn't want to cut into Tenet's box office.
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    DUNE now delayed. There is no way theatres can last through the winter with no films!


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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    DUNE now delayed. There is no way theatres can last through the winter with no films!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe315 View Post
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    DUNE now delayed. There is no way theatres can last through the winter with no films!


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    Seen that but how long can they hold on? Still bills to pay being closed


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