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    It's simple:

    - NATO is the aggressor by virtue of (*checks notes*) forming alliances in the vicinity of a country with a century-long habit of biting chunks out of Europe.

    - The forming of alliances by NATO within 1,000 miles of the Russian border therefore justifies any and all action (military or otherwise) by Russia, and any and all resulting death, destruction, and seizure, occupation, or conquest of land.

    - The West has failed to learn the most important lesson: if you don't want Russia to invade you, don't form relationships based on Russia's repeatedly demonstrated fondness for invasion (the West has been wearing a very short skirt for quite some time and was clearly asking for it).
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    As for King (ahem), he was trying to do right by someone he thought was in a tough spot and requires no defense. Anyone can look silly when their sympathies are taken advantage of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Troy View Post
    It's simple:

    - NATO is the aggressor by virtue of (*checks notes*) forming alliances in the vicinity of a country with a century-long habit of biting chunks out of Europe.

    - The forming of alliances by NATO within 1,000 miles of the Russian border therefore justifies any and all action (military or otherwise) by Russia, and any and all resulting death, destruction, and seizure, occupation, or conquest of land.

    - The West has failed to learn the most important lesson: if you don't want Russia to invade you, don't form relationships based on Russia's repeatedly demonstrated fondness for invasion (the West has been wearing a very short skirt for quite some time and was clearly asking for it).
    Russia has no right to dictate to its neighbors, be that Ukraine or Sweden, what alliances they can or cannot join. It's literally none of their business. And they especially have no right to do so by military force and annexation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Russia has no right to dictate to its neighbors, be that Ukraine or Sweden, what alliances they can or cannot join. It's literally none of their business. And they especially have no right to do so by military force and annexation.
    Somehow this is a controversial position.
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    Of course the US is minding its own business.

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    What territories since the end of WW2 has the US annexed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    What territories since the end of WW2 has the US annexed?
    Hawaii comes immediately to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    What territories since the end of WW2 has the US annexed?
    Hawaii comes immediately to mind.
    And they did it illegally. Hawaii has a good case for independence.
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    How does that even relate to Russia? And other countries doing bad things makes it okay for others to do bad things?

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    I will reply in the World News thread since that is where most of the Ukraine conversation has been and it's off topic for this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    What territories since the end of WW2 has the US annexed?
    Hawaii comes immediately to mind.
    And they did it illegally. Hawaii has a good case for independence.
    Thanks for the positive rep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    …other countries doing bad things makes it okay for others to do bad things?
    Yes; an imperfect West justifies all Russian actions.
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    Hawaii was taken over in 1898/99. I know as a stamp collector their last stamp was 1899. After that they were overprints.
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    Wait wait. I just saw that short skirt comment.

    You think a woman in a short skirt is asking to be raped?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
    Wait wait. I just saw that short skirt comment.

    You think a woman in a short skirt is asking to be raped?
    “Checks notes” is normally considered a pretty clear indicator of sarcasm - is anyone taking that post seriously?
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    I have to say, I almost admire the originality of raising Hawaii in a discussion about Russian foreign policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurker View Post
    Hawaii was taken over in 1898/99. I know as a stamp collector their last stamp was 1899. After that they were overprints.
    It didn't become a state until 1959 though.

    Okay, a better example would be Syria. The US illegally occupies a third of Syria.

    Iraq is occupied.

    Hell Germany, Japan, Korea, etc. are occupied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by St. Troy View Post
    It's simple:

    - NATO is the aggressor by virtue of (*checks notes*) forming alliances in the vicinity of a country with a century-long habit of biting chunks out of Europe.

    - The forming of alliances by NATO within 1,000 miles of the Russian border therefore justifies any and all action (military or otherwise) by Russia, and any and all resulting death, destruction, and seizure, occupation, or conquest of land.

    - The West has failed to learn the most important lesson: if you don't want Russia to invade you, don't form relationships based on Russia's repeatedly demonstrated fondness for invasion (the West has been wearing a very short skirt for quite some time and was clearly asking for it).
    Russia has no right to dictate to its neighbors, be that Ukraine or Sweden, what alliances they can or cannot join. It's literally none of their business. And they especially have no right to do so by military force and annexation.
    Anyone remember when Russia sent missiles to Cuba? And the US reaction. Cuba is a sovereign country - right? I suppose the US has no right to dictate what our neighbors do. Ukraine is another "cause" for endless foreign war. The establishment politicians need a replacement after Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq and many others. It's an endless repeat. Find some narrative to justify the expenditure of billions. Sell it to a gullible public. Funnel billions to military contractors. Claim it is working but we need to do just a little more. Send in military advisors etc. Creeping escalation. Make no effort to settle the conflict - only escalate. Decades later pull out with nothing accomplished and everything in ruin.

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    Does anybody think this thread will be returning to: "Random King-related news" anytime soon.. I think there's mention of him 3 or 4 pages back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cook View Post
    Does anybody think this thread will be returning to: "Random King-related news" anytime soon.. I think there's mention of him 3 or 4 pages back.
    I have no King news, but as one of the offenders, I'll at least try to prime the pump:

    We have Fairy Tale on the horizon, but do we have clues as to what might be next, and when?
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    Quote Originally Posted by St. Troy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cook View Post
    Does anybody think this thread will be returning to: "Random King-related news" anytime soon.. I think there's mention of him 3 or 4 pages back.
    I have no King news, but as one of the offenders, I'll at least try to prime the pump:

    We have Fairy Tale on the horizon, but do we have clues as to what might be next, and when?
    I was sorta hoping one of the DT.org members that spoke at the Comic-Con panel would have something for us !!


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    Looks like a fun film festival; I hope there are some goodies in that batch.
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