Thanks to that damn doll; every time you post, I hear Talking Tina in my head!! Thinking Paul and I are going to need therapy, and lots of it!Originally Posted by dnemec
Anytime, my dear!Thanks, Dez! Most helpful.
Thanks to that damn doll; every time you post, I hear Talking Tina in my head!! Thinking Paul and I are going to need therapy, and lots of it!Anytime, my dear!Thanks, Dez! Most helpful
You don't know my kind.....You don't my mind.....Dark necessities are part of my design.....
Ended up somewhat speed-reading/skimming the last half, and was pleased to see that some true conflict entered into the picture. I won't say more than that to avoid any possible spoilers, but, for me, the second half was notably more rewarding than the first half. So while I'm glad I pressed on and completed the book, THE FIREMAN is definitely my least favorite of any of Joe's works (replacing HORNS, which now moves up in the pecking order). I had imagined Joe Hill + Stand-like apocalyptic themes as being a foolproof combo, so I come away from the book disappointed and, frankly, a bit stunned. I'm not sure what kind of book Joe was aiming for with this one, but -- for me -- it just didn't work. But my confidence in Hill isn't shaken...as I've mentioned before, he's built up too much goodwill with me with his other brilliant works, so I'm just going to look upon THE FIREMAN as an instance -- the exception to the rule -- where he and I just didn't gel.Oh jeez, don't say that...I was hoping the second half would be better. At about 275 pages now; less than halfway, I believe, and was muddling through with the expectation that it picks up. Now, oh boy...
To add to my thoughts above, I think part of the problem is that there is not yet any true conflict. I think my earlier reference to the story being "flat" was a reflection that, when all is said and done, there is no conflict yet. It's a group of people of just...doing things and worrying. The only tension and conflict was contained within a few pages about the history of Harold, but that passed all to quickly. I hope this story is going somewhere, because right now it just feels like a group of poorly defined characters meandering around, looking for a plot.
Wicked cool doodle Brian! I'm happy for you and that was good of Chris to hook you up on one of his many stops. I think you'll be glad to start getting in to Hill some more. That was a nice list Dez posted for you and interesting to see what some of this stuff is going for now. I got real lucky on a couple of my gets by the looks of it!
(trying to rep the three of you but I still haven't "spread it around" enough. lol. So here's a pretty +1
Who has read the first Tales From the Darkside issue? Thoughts?
I ordered the regular/variant 8 issue set from SK Catalog so I won't be seeing it until the series is over but I'm excited for it! Loved this show as a kid so looking forward to seeing Hill's take on it.
For those of you who are still interested in Locke & Key, IDW limited now has a great offer for the limited black label Head Games at 50% off
http://idwlimited.com/shop/locke-key...eid=1e38f8cbcc
Looking for lettered Voluntary Committal (Subterranean)
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They also have the NOS4A2/Wraith combo for 112.50 - I skipped it last time someone had it for 99.00, so I'm deciding on whether or not I should get one now...
If it's any help, I think it's a seriously well- thought out, designed and produced tome, and a definite bargain at close to $100. Isn't it Scream Press's Jeff Conner who does these for IDW now? If so, it shows.They also have the NOS4A2/Wraith combo for 112.50 - I skipped it last time someone had it for 99.00, so I'm deciding on whether or not I should get one now...
Wow, Chris! First off, glad you had such a great experience and Joe took the extra time to chat you up. That's beyond cool! Secondly, I can't thank you enough for making the time and effort to get this done for me! So stoked to hear of the awesome doodle. Can't wait to see it. What makes it even more incredible is that the Phoenix has always had a special meaning to me. I fell in love with the image the first time The Bandit rolled the Trans Am out the back of that tractor-trailer. Later in life, I owned a '96 Trans Am; no Phoenix on the hood though. And my ebay user name is phoenixdown96 after that car. I feel like I just hit the lottery this early morning when I read this. And to top it off, yesterday afternoon, I received my signed UK copy from Alan!Tonight was the final stop on The Fireman Tour in South Portland, ME. Joe was a little late starting as he had an interview with our local NBC affiliate for a local show called "207". I will see if I can find out when it may air and if it will be available on line.
It went as most of the other events have but with the added bonus of Michael Koryta (crime and suspense author) and Izzy Skelton (Skelton Crew) being in the audience. koryta was brought up for the kazoo portion.
During the Q&A I was able to ask him a question. After pointing out that between he and his father they have made it very clear that any society that drinks Nozz-ola soda is prerty much boned, I asked if he had any concerens about including specific Dark Tower mythology into his novels. He said that he thought that he had reached a point in his life that since he had included so many of the other influences in his life into his writing, it felt natural to honor his fathers influence that way.
During the signing portion he recognized me from some of the other events and said I must be getting bored hearing all the same stories. I assured him that was not the case.
Now, all this talking is happening with a pretty long line still behind me, and I realized that he was taking extra time to do a doodle in the Fireman that I was having done for Brian861. Okay, if he isn't in a hurry that's fine with me. I then asked if he had any information concerning the limited Fireman tha PS has been teasing us with. He said he thought it would be out this fall, perhaps late September and that he had seen most of the art and it was "friggin' amazing".
And yes Brian, I got your book signed and indeed, he took the time to do a doodle. It's one I haven't personally seen before, one of a pheonix, all in flames. I'm actually pretty goddam jealous.
All in all a nice end to the tour.
I don't like to get too personal here because I feel it's really not the place. Even though I've still been able to make small book purchases, the last year has been really rough due to a lay off. So Alan and Chris, what you guys have done for me with these signings, I can't put into words the joy or appreciation I'm feeling right now. I believe David (Betts) had on his home page awhile back about how far a kind gesture or word can go. He was spot on and you guys delivered in a big way. Demonstrating complete selflessness in fore filling a fellow forum members request. I guy you both don't even know outside of what is seen and read here. Yes, Joe signs a ton of books and other things and it might not be that big of a deal outside of our little circle. But it's a huge deal to me. And in the end, that's all that matters. If there ever is anything I can do for you guys, please, don't hesitate to ask. I'm forever indebted to you both. Thanks again, guys! You truly
Was my pleasure, Brian. Any time my friend
I agree, it is a beautifully done book. Buy it.If it's any help, I think it's a seriously well- thought out, designed and produced tome, and a definite bargain at close to $100. Isn't it Scream Press's Jeff Conner who does these for IDW now? If so, it shows.They also have the NOS4A2/Wraith combo for 112.50 - I skipped it last time someone had it for 99.00, so I'm deciding on whether or not I should get one now...
Yep, what Dez said. Beautiful production at a great price. I got mine a few weeks a go. You won't regret it.
Finished The Fireman last night.
I found the second half much more enjoyable than the first half. The story picked up pace and whilst I really liked the ending, I'd still rank this as my least favourite JH novel.
I guess you aren't a big enough of a hussy with the spreading it around thing, BevWicked cool doodle Brian! I'm happy for you and that was good of Chris to hook you up on one of his many stops. I think you'll be glad to start getting in to Hill some more. That was a nice list Dez posted for you and interesting to see what some of this stuff is going for now. I got real lucky on a couple of my gets by the looks of it!
(trying to rep the three of you but I still haven't "spread it around" enough. lol. So here's a pretty +1I appreciate the pretty +1 all the same
You don't know my kind.....You don't my mind.....Dark necessities are part of my design.....
I really enjoy. Too bad he's only doing four. After reading the first one, I was hoping for a lot more. Maybe he'll do some more down the line. There are five variants alone for issue #1 including the regular cover so far if you're into collecting them all. I'll post a pic below that was listed inside of the first issue. I'll eventually have 4 of the 5 once my eBay purchases come in. I was unaware of all the variants until I saw them inside the cover of the first issue. I haven't purchased a comic since probably early jr. high and it wasn't for collecting so completely in the dark with the comic thing for the most part. Starting with issue #2, I had my local mom and pop comic store reserve for me a set of all the variants that they will receive for the rest of the series. You might want to do the same if the variants are a must have.
You don't know my kind.....You don't my mind.....Dark necessities are part of my design.....
Appreciate that, brother!Was my pleasure, Brian. Any time my friend
You don't know my kind.....You don't my mind.....Dark necessities are part of my design.....
SIGH. I should have known there would be a gazillion variants. Same with Wraith of which I have all of those. I am getting the regular and sub variants from SK Catalog so now I'm going to go on the hunt for these other ones. Thanks for sharing Brian and I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed the first issue!I really enjoy. Too bad he's only doing four
P.S. I don't know if you saw in the earlier posts but there is a hardcover Scripts version of TFTD coming out in Oct I believe. You can pre order on Amazon or maybe your local mom and pop can reserve that as well but you KNOW you're gonna have to have it
Okay people, I have the slipcased Sub Press NOS4A2/Wraith. Tell me why I need the IDW...(seriously I need to be talked into or out of it lol)and that is a good price!
The Sub Press S/L edition did not come with Wraith. If you have the combined one, you may have ordered the IDW edition from Sub Press.
No, I have the Sub Press version. I'm at work so I can't double check but I'm pretty sure they included the Wraith novella? Regardless, the IDW version looks to be very nice edition. Just trying to decide if I need yet another one of this book. LolThe Sub Press S/L edition did not come with Wraith. If you have the combined one, you may have ordered the IDW edition from Sub Press.
I read Wraith separately and felt zero urge to buy the IDW one.No, I have the Sub Press version. I'm at work so I can't double check but I'm pretty sure they included the Wraith novella? Regardless, the IDW version looks to be very nice edition. Just trying to decide if I need yet another one of this book. LolThe Sub Press S/L edition did not come with Wraith. If you have the combined one, you may have ordered the IDW edition from Sub Press.
The IDW edition has the Wraith comic graphic novel, not the novellaNo, I have the Sub Press version. I'm at work so I can't double check but I'm pretty sure they included the Wraith novella? Regardless, the IDW version looks to be very nice edition. Just trying to decide if I need yet another one of this book. LolThe Sub Press S/L edition did not come with Wraith. If you have the combined one, you may have ordered the IDW edition from Sub Press.
Ah! I see what you're saying now. Lol. Graphic novel as opposed to the novella itself. Hmmm....I have all of the comics and the h/c of the graphic so I'll have to think on whether or not I need the IDW version.The IDW edition has the Wraith comic graphic novel, not the novellaNo, I have the Sub Press version. I'm at work so I can't double check but I'm pretty sure they included the Wraith novella? Regardless, the IDW version looks to be very nice edition. Just trying to decide if I need yet another one of this book. LolThe Sub Press S/L edition did not come with Wraith. If you have the combined one, you may have ordered the IDW edition from Sub Press.
The Sub Press edition does indeed contain Wraith. It isn't included in the title, but it appears after NOS4A2.The Sub Press S/L edition did not come with Wraith. If you have the combined one, you may have ordered the IDW edition from Sub Press.
"The Limited edition of NOS4A2 will be oversize, printed on 80# Finch, with an unpublished novella, “Wraith,” that was cut from the original manuscript. It also includes an alternate ending to the novel, as well as illustrations, in both black and white and color, by Hill’s long-term collaborator on the award-winning comic, Locke & Key, Gabriel Rodriguez." 750 limitation.
The IDW version is:
*
- Limited to 999 copies
- Limited-edition, custom-designed slipcase
- Mounted signature page signed by author Joe Hill and C.P. Wilson III, also includes a small head sketch from the artist
- Full-color dust jacket and a newly illustrated map of Christmasland featured as the end pages
- Debossed cloth cover
The IDW edition is larger and heavier than the Sub Press edition. It's a nice book. You probably don't need it, but you know you need it. And that's a good price.
I'd also like to add that when my first copy of the IDW book arrived from Midtown Comics it was badly damaged. Midtown would only offer a small discount, or I could return it. IDW Limited replaced it for me for free, even though they didn't sell it to me. Since they published it, they wanted me to be satisfied.
edit: Sub Press = Novella & IDW = Graphic novel
"One day you're going to figure out that everything they taught you was a lie."
I was referring to it not coming with the Graphic Novel, which is what made it different than the Sub Press copy. I should have been more clear.The Sub Press edition does indeed contain Wraith. It isn't included in the title, but it appears after NOS4A2.The Sub Press S/L edition did not come with Wraith. If you have the combined one, you may have ordered the IDW edition from Sub Press.
"The Limited edition of NOS4A2 will be oversize, printed on 80# Finch, with an unpublished novella, “Wraith,” that was cut from the original manuscript. It also includes an alternate ending to the novel, as well as illustrations, in both black and white and color, by Hill’s long-term collaborator on the award-winning comic, Locke & Key, Gabriel Rodriguez." 750 limitation.
The IDW version is:
*
- Limited to 999 copies
- Limited-edition, custom-designed slipcase
- Mounted signature page signed by author Joe Hill and C.P. Wilson III, also includes a small head sketch from the artist
- Full-color dust jacket and a newly illustrated map of Christmasland featured as the end pages
- Debossed cloth cover
The IDW edition is larger and heavier than the Sub Press edition. It's a nice book. You probably don't need it, but you know you need it. And that's a good price.
I'd also like to add that when my first copy of the IDW book arrived from Midtown Comics it was badly damaged. Midtown would only offer a small discount, or I could return it. IDW Limited replaced it for me for free, even though they didn't sell it to me. Since they published it, they wanted me to be satisfied.
edit: Sub Press = Novella & IDW = Graphic novel
I got that now, hence my edit. I wasn't entirely clear either.
"One day you're going to figure out that everything they taught you was a lie."
Lol, I'm glad it wasn't just me! Now we're all on the same page(pun intendedI got that now, hence my edit. I wasn't entirely clear either.)
Thanks for the input guys! Brian is indeed correct(leave it to you to talk me into this) it's not a MUST have since I have the Sub Press edition but it would be lax of me not to get this so I can indeed own both S/L editions and at a nice price to boot.
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