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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather19 View Post
    Maybe start with 224 or 192, and play it by ear with how the nominations are going. If 192 is reached quickly then up it to the next?
    That sounds like a good plan to me. Shoot for 192 but move up to 224 if there are still nominations/seconds coming in.

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    192 is my vote.

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    Just as an aside, halfway through the tournament we have went through 1344 nominated films with an additional 301 nominations that were not seconded.

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    Also, thinking ahead to the second half, I have been playing around with math and round structure, and I'm thinking this could work:
    • 1960s: 192 nominations (skipping regular Round 1, starting with the regular Round 2: 32 groups of 6 titles - top 4 move on; rest the same)
    • 1950s: 160 nominations (skipping regular Round 1, starting with the new Round 1: 32 groups of 5 titles - top 4 move on; rest the same)
    • 1940s: 128 nominations (starting with the new Round 1: 32 groups of 4 titles - top 3 move on; new Round 2: 32 groups of 3 - top 2 move on; new Round 3: 16 groups of 4 - top 2 moves on; new Round 4: 16 groups of 2 - top 1 moves on; skipping regular Round 5; rest the same)
    • 1930s: 96 nominations (starting with the new Round 1: 32 groups of 3 titles - top 2 move on; new Round 2: 32 groups of 2 - top 1 moves on; new Round 3: 16 groups of 2 - top 1 moves on; skipping regular Rounds 4 and 5; rest the same)
    • 1920s: 80 nominations (starting with the new Round 1: 16 groups of 5 titles - top 3 move on; new Round 2: 16 groups of 3 - top 2 move on; new Round 3: 16 groups of 2 - top 1 moves on; skipping regular Rounds 4 and 5; rest the same)

    Hope that makes sense to everyone and I think we can definitely come up with this many nominations. The only issue might arise with the 1920s, and I would like to shoot for 80, but we could drop that to 64 worst case (though that seems like really short-changing that pioneering decade). But, we are still a long way away from the '20s, and since this is the 100th anniversary of those films, I challenge everyone to try and watch some films from the 1920s you may have always heard about but never watched. A lot of them can be found freely on YouTube.

    One added cool bonus to this, we would end up with an even 2000 nominated films for this entire event.

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    And finally, to elaborate further, once all ten decades are done, we will take the ten decade winners and first place them into a round-robin for seeding purposes, so each movie will face off against every other movie once (not sure if we should do points or combined percentages again) and then they will be seeded accordingly as such: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:10TeamBracket

    Or we could skip the round-robin, as the pairings would be the same both in the round-robin and playoff sections of this final phase (so we'd be essentially voting twice on the same polls), and simply rank and seed based on the overall percentage earned during that film's decade tournament.

    Can't wait!

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    By the way, in addition to HBO Max having lots of classics to stream, you can also stream with TCM and your cable provider: https://www.tcm.com/watchtcm (Right now I'm watching the new restoration of the 1926 comedy So This Is Paris, directed by the great Ernst Lubitsch, and it's pretty hilarious!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Or we could skip the round-robin, as the pairings would be the same both in the round-robin and playoff sections of this final phase (so we'd be essentially voting twice on the same polls), and simply rank and seed based on the overall percentage earned during that film's decade tournament.
    Answering myself, but I think that's what we'll do. I've added each winner's total percentage to the first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    And finally, to elaborate further, once all ten decades are done, we will take the ten decade winners and first place them into a round-robin for seeding purposes, so each movie will face off against every other movie once (not sure if we should do points or combined percentages again) and then they will be seeded accordingly as such: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:10TeamBracket

    Or we could skip the round-robin, as the pairings would be the same both in the round-robin and playoff sections of this final phase (so we'd be essentially voting twice on the same polls), and simply rank and seed based on the overall percentage earned during that film's decade tournament.

    Can't wait!
    I actually like the round robin approach. As winners for each decade they deserve to go up against each other as least once to determine seeding. Seems like the only way to create fair seeding. We are not talking about a lot of movies/rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorZaius View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    And finally, to elaborate further, once all ten decades are done, we will take the ten decade winners and first place them into a round-robin for seeding purposes, so each movie will face off against every other movie once (not sure if we should do points or combined percentages again) and then they will be seeded accordingly as such: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:10TeamBracket

    Or we could skip the round-robin, as the pairings would be the same both in the round-robin and playoff sections of this final phase (so we'd be essentially voting twice on the same polls), and simply rank and seed based on the overall percentage earned during that film's decade tournament.

    Can't wait!
    I actually like the round robin approach. As winners for each decade they deserve to go up against each other as least once to determine seeding. Seems like the only way to create fair seeding. We are not talking about a lot of movies/rounds.
    Well, that's what I thought too, but then after the round-borin round they would face off again in the tournament final and wouldn't that seem repetitive?

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    Just do them by percentages earned during their respective tournaments.

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    Hi everyone! Just a quick reminder that the 1960s nominations begin July 1!

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    Looking forward to it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Hi everyone! Just a quick reminder that the 1960s nominations begin July 1!

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    I have about 60 ready to go.

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    I jotted down about 35, limiting myself to movies I scored 4 - 5 stars out of 5. If I opened it up to 3 - 3.5 stars, I'd have another handful.

    Almost all of my top list are Japanese.

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    I have one. Rosemary’s Baby. 😂 sorry guys… I love love movies but just don’t do well with the older ones. I’ll be around to see but won’t be much help. And don’t have a fav to win. Does anyone have one they think is a shoe in to win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
    I have one. Rosemary’s Baby. 😂 sorry guys… I love love movies but just don’t do well with the older ones. I’ll be around to see but won’t be much help. And don’t have a fav to win. Does anyone have one they think is a shoe in to win?
    I don't have one that's a definite lock to win, but I can throw out a few guesses in addition to Rosemary’s Baby:

    Psycho
    Lawrence of Arabia
    8 1/2
    Dr. Strangelove
    The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
    The Graduate
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    Midnight Cowboy

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    I only have 19 . But I am sure people picked some that I forgot about .

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    So the 1960s nominations have been completed and as I mentioned in the nominations thread, voting will begin on August 2!


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    Shame Manos: The Hands of Fate didn't make it but still a pretty darn good list! Thanks Mae!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Thanks Mae!!
    It's my pleasure!

    The full schedule has now been added to the first post.

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    Can't wait to get started!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Shame Manos: The Hands of Fate didn't make it but still a pretty darn good list! Thanks Mae!!
    The only reason I know that movie even exists is because of MST3K.

    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians is another one from the 60s that I only know because of that show that I didn't even think of until just now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather19 View Post
    Can't wait to get started!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwritecode View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Shame Manos: The Hands of Fate didn't make it but still a pretty darn good list! Thanks Mae!!
    The only reason I know that movie even exists is because of MST3K.

    Santa Claus Conquers the Martians is another one from the 60s that I only know because of that show that I didn't even think of until just now.
    The director of Manos was a fertilizer salesman that bet someone he could make a movie. He used his own dog, his wife did the wardrobe and the painting I think, a friend did the song. The servant guy, Torgo, was tripping on acid the entire shoot and killed himself before the thing even aired at one drive-in and most of the male voices were done by the same guy and most of the female voices by the same woman because the director didn't understand sound mixing or anything like that. I don't know how MST3K managed to find that thing back before the internet but they did.

    Given all that, I'd still rather watch it again over Santa Claus Conquers the Martians. (I've seen both on the big screen). Manos isn't the worst film ever but it belongs in the top 10 for sure.

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