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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    Cap ‘em All was Suntupica’s first album.

    I love those capped slipcases. But I also love Paul’s mission to serve the work. And if it includes capped slipcases, then great.

    It’s fantastic to see a shelf full of unique editions that broadcast the reading experience from just the spines.

    I’m liking this flat spine on The Auctioneer more than I thought I would.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Br!an View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    Cap ‘em All was Suntupica’s first album.

    I love those capped slipcases. But I also love Paul’s mission to serve the work. And if it includes capped slipcases, then great.

    It’s fantastic to see a shelf full of unique editions that broadcast the reading experience from just the spines.

    I’m liking this flat spine on The Auctioneer more than I thought I would.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
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    Paul, I have a couple questions about the different styles you use for the books (I apologize if you have answered this before).

    What drives the choices between a standard slipcase versus the two piece box used on Horns (along with LTROI, ASD, Necormancer)?

    Same question but with the spine design: flat like on The Auctioneer vs rounded on all the others?

    Why do some slipcases have the titles on the box, while others don't (I'm pretty sure that is a material restriction like with the slick used on Red Dragon)?

    Thanks!
    This is not an easy question to answer. Part of the decision may be driven by how much it costs to produce the edition, and whether there is any room for a higher priced enclosure. Other factors may be the overall design, and whether it might benefit from a capped slipcase. So we'd consider the production as a whole. And there are other considerations which are difficult to quantify, or put into words.

    As for the spine, also a tough one to answer. I like the way a flatback binding looks in a slipcase. It's all very square, and straight and it looks good. For a book like The Auctioneer, it seemed incongruous to have a rounded spine for that particular story. So the theme, or the type of story plays a part. 1984 will have a flat spine. That will look great in the acrylic case. And there's also another one coming up very soon.

    And now, stamping on slipcase spines. I actually like some slipcases with no stamping. Maybe I have an odd view on this. Sometimes I see no need to put anything on the spine of a slipcase. Sometimes it's more about the design or material used. But of course, I don't feel strongly either way, because most have printing or stamping on the spines. There are times when we are figuring out what to do with the spine of a slipcase, and I don't want to put anything on it, and then I hear the voices of some of our customers who I know like to display the books with the slipcase facing out. So we end up doing something with the spine. This happened with the Simic poetry book. That is a full Japanese cloth case, and I wasn't intending to do anything on the spine, but I ended up putting a stamped label on it. And I think it looks sharp.

    Another two examples, the Numbered Wells books. I just didn't feel it was needed, and would have interfered with, or disturbed the letterpress printed design. At least that's my opinion. For that brocade, yes I wouldn't even want to attempt to stamp that, and applying a label wasn't an option for me.
    Thanks for taking the time to respond!

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    Question regarding the boards for The Auctioneer. I presume that the bumps and knocks are standard for the handmade paper boards, right?

    I imagine that they're all fairly unique covers given the process, but I just wanted to be sure.

    Captured my bumps/knocks in my unboxing (I suppose I can call them "imperfections," but in the savvy Ian Malcolm-like way). Either way, this is probably one of the nicest feeling covers I've ever laid my hands on!

    https://youtu.be/nY_2gCH1txw

    Seriously, another one knocked out of the park! Now to wait for my Paperback from Hell edition, as I dare not read this copy...

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    I’m pleased you like it! And I enjoyed your video! What you’re seeing there are not imperfections. Those bumps are straw fibers. The papers are made by hand using bales of straw from fields near the paper maker’s workshop. We chose this paper because of its rustic appearance, the tactile experience, and the “earthy” way in which it is made. Also, being handmade, each sheet is unique in some way. These are not mass produced, machine made papers, so the surface area may differ from sheet to sheet. Some may have more fibers embedded in the paper and some may have less. It makes for an immersive experience.

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    I see based on the intro that The Auctioneer was set in 2018. How far out is publishing calendar of confirmed books? 2023? 2024?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    I’m pleased you like it! And I enjoyed your video! What you’re seeing there are not imperfections. Those bumps are straw fibers. The papers are made by hand using bales of straw from fields near the paper maker’s workshop. We chose this paper because of its rustic appearance, the tactile experience, and the “earthy” way in which it is made. Also, being handmade, each sheet is unique in some way. These are not mass produced, machine made papers, so the surface area may differ from sheet to sheet. Some may have more fibers embedded in the paper and some may have less. It makes for an immersive experience.
    Thank you, sir! I had figured as much, so thank you for assuaging my fears.

    It definitely has that earthy feel! Makes for a very cool explanation if anyone asks. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe315 View Post
    I see based on the intro that The Auctioneer was set in 2018. How far out is publishing calendar of confirmed books? 2023? 2024?
    To be fair, the intro by Grady Hendrix is the same one that he wrote for the trade edition being released via Valancourt Books. And I believe we have Hendrix's Paperbacks From Hell writings to thank for that trade edition.

    So while this book may have been planned by Suntup for some time, the intro would likely have been written regardless. It may have just been a perfect opportunity for the Suntup Edition to line up with the new trade edition. :-)

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    I see based on the intro that The Auctioneer was set in 2018. How far out is publishing calendar of confirmed books? 2023? 2024?
    To be fair, the intro by Grady Hendrix is the same one that he wrote for the trade edition being released via Valancourt Books. And I believe we have Hendrix's Paperbacks From Hell writings to thank for that trade edition.

    So while this book may have been planned by Suntup for some time, the intro would likely have been written regardless. It may have just been a perfect opportunity for the Suntup Edition to line up with the new trade edition. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splync View Post
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    I see based on the intro that The Auctioneer was set in 2018. How far out is publishing calendar of confirmed books? 2023? 2024?
    To be fair, the intro by Grady Hendrix is the same one that he wrote for the trade edition being released via Valancourt Books. And I believe we have Hendrix's Paperbacks From Hell writings to thank for that trade edition.

    So while this book may have been planned by Suntup for some time, the intro would likely have been written regardless. It may have just been a perfect opportunity for the Suntup Edition to line up with the new trade edition. :-)
    Ah. Got that mixed up with the preface.

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    The Auctioneer is such a sweet production, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the AGE to read it. Right now, I'm reading the ARC of Neuromancer and loving it! We'll see what I get at next. Probably Westlake Soul.

    Anyway, I wanted to ask if The World Doesn't End will ship right after the Wells set. So I'll ask. Will The World Doesn't End ship right after the Wells set? It looks like that numbered edition is all done. And I have the shelf space. I'm also anxious for Bibliomysteries. But I'll rein in those horses and get the anxiety rat off the wheel powering my brain. I realize I'm getting itchy. I understand it's a bad look to be this openly greedy. I'm aware that I just got The Auctioneer and the Wells books will be arriving soon, but it isn't enough, man. It's just not enough.

    Really don't burn yourself out, Paul! Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    The Auctioneer is such a sweet production, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the AGE to read it. Right now, I'm reading the ARC of Neuromancer and loving it! We'll see what I get at next. Probably Westlake Soul.

    Anyway, I wanted to ask if The World Doesn't End will ship right after the Wells set. So I'll ask. Will The World Doesn't End ship right after the Wells set? It looks like that numbered edition is all done. And I have the shelf space. I'm also anxious for Bibliomysteries. But I'll rein in those horses and get the anxiety rat off the wheel powering my brain. I realize I'm getting itchy. I understand it's a bad look to be this openly greedy. I'm aware that I just got The Auctioneer and the Wells books will be arriving soon, but it isn't enough, man. It's just not enough.

    Really don't burn yourself out, Paul! Seriously.
    Just finished The Auctioneer this afternoon and I really enjoyed it. You could read your ARC of it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian861 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    The Auctioneer is such a sweet production, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the AGE to read it. Right now, I'm reading the ARC of Neuromancer and loving it! We'll see what I get at next. Probably Westlake Soul.

    Anyway, I wanted to ask if The World Doesn't End will ship right after the Wells set. So I'll ask. Will The World Doesn't End ship right after the Wells set? It looks like that numbered edition is all done. And I have the shelf space. I'm also anxious for Bibliomysteries. But I'll rein in those horses and get the anxiety rat off the wheel powering my brain. I realize I'm getting itchy. I understand it's a bad look to be this openly greedy. I'm aware that I just got The Auctioneer and the Wells books will be arriving soon, but it isn't enough, man. It's just not enough.

    Really don't burn yourself out, Paul! Seriously.
    Just finished The Auctioneer this afternoon and I really enjoyed it. You could read your ARC of it as well.
    I could read the ARC. But I read the Red Dragon ARC and the lamination on the back cover started separating. So I'm paranoid about ruining these books. I'm only reading the one for Neuromancer because there will be no AGE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    I could read the ARC. But I read the Red Dragon ARC and the lamination on the back cover started separating. So I'm paranoid about ruining these books. I'm only reading the one for Neuromancer because there will be no AGE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    The Auctioneer is such a sweet production, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the AGE to read it. Right now, I'm reading the ARC of Neuromancer and loving it! We'll see what I get at next. Probably Westlake Soul.

    Anyway, I wanted to ask if The World Doesn't End will ship right after the Wells set. So I'll ask. Will The World Doesn't End ship right after the Wells set? It looks like that numbered edition is all done. And I have the shelf space. I'm also anxious for Bibliomysteries. But I'll rein in those horses and get the anxiety rat off the wheel powering my brain. I realize I'm getting itchy. I understand it's a bad look to be this openly greedy. I'm aware that I just got The Auctioneer and the Wells books will be arriving soon, but it isn't enough, man. It's just not enough.

    Really don't burn yourself out, Paul! Seriously.
    If everything is delivered on schedule, then here's how I see the shipping through the end of 2020. The Wells books and cases are already on hand and prepped. These will likely ship by the end of this week. That will include the Numbered editions of The Invisible Man and The War of the Worlds, and the Lettered edition of The Invisible Man.

    After this, I expect to ship the Artist edition of Let the Right One In, followed by The World Doesn't End. But depending on what comes in first, those could switch. And finally, provided we receive the cases on time, we should be able to ship both editions of Bibliomysteries before year end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    The Auctioneer is such a sweet production, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the AGE to read it. Right now, I'm reading the ARC of Neuromancer and loving it! We'll see what I get at next. Probably Westlake Soul.

    Anyway, I wanted to ask if The World Doesn't End will ship right after the Wells set. So I'll ask. Will The World Doesn't End ship right after the Wells set? It looks like that numbered edition is all done. And I have the shelf space. I'm also anxious for Bibliomysteries. But I'll rein in those horses and get the anxiety rat off the wheel powering my brain. I realize I'm getting itchy. I understand it's a bad look to be this openly greedy. I'm aware that I just got The Auctioneer and the Wells books will be arriving soon, but it isn't enough, man. It's just not enough.

    Really don't burn yourself out, Paul! Seriously.
    If everything is delivered on schedule, then here's how I see the shipping through the end of 2020. The Wells books and cases are already on hand and prepped. These will likely ship by the end of this week. That will include the Numbered editions of The Invisible Man and The War of the Worlds, and the Lettered edition of The Invisible Man.

    After this, I expect to ship the Artist edition of Let the Right One In, followed by The World Doesn't End. But depending on what comes in first, those could switch. And finally, provided we receive the cases on time, we should be able to ship both editions of Bibliomysteries before year end.
    All of that is music, Paul. Thank you. It'll be a balm to the burn of 2020 for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    All of that is music, Paul. Thank you. It'll be a balm to the burn of 2020 for sure.
    I say without exaggeration that continuing to get Suntup releases over these last eight months has been legitimately helpful, psychologically

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    Quote Originally Posted by lotuz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    All of that is music, Paul. Thank you. It'll be a balm to the burn of 2020 for sure.
    I say without exaggeration that continuing to get Suntup releases over these last eight months has been legitimately helpful, psychologically
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    ...There are times when we are figuring out what to do with the spine of a slipcase, and I don't want to put anything on it, and then I hear the voices of some of our customers who I know like to display the books with the slipcase facing out. So we end up doing something with the spine. This happened with the Simic poetry book. That is a full Japanese cloth case, and I wasn't intending to do anything on the spine, but I ended up putting a stamped label on it. And I think it looks sharp.

    Another two examples, the Numbered Wells books. I just didn't feel it was needed, and would have interfered with, or disturbed the letterpress printed design. At least that's my opinion. For that brocade, yes I wouldn't even want to attempt to stamp that, and applying a label wasn't an option for me.
    I am one who displays my Suntup books with the spine out most of the time and I had advocated in the early days for names on spines. That was around the time of first few books being released and only one of the first four non-SKs was clearly distinguishable (HORNS). However these days I really enjoy the lack of writing on many of the spines when they have some other creative hint at what the book may be, such as RB, TTM, RD, and the other Wells books when they arrive.

    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    ...If everything is delivered on schedule, then here's how I see the shipping through the end of 2020. The Wells books and cases are already on hand and prepped. These will likely ship by the end of this week. That will include the Numbered editions of The Invisible Man and The War of the Worlds, and the Lettered edition of The Invisible Man.

    After this, I expect to ship the Artist edition of Let the Right One In, followed by The World Doesn't End. But depending on what comes in first, those could switch. And finally, provided we receive the cases on time, we should be able to ship both editions of Bibliomysteries before year end.
    Wow! It’s going to be a jam-packed next two months!

    Thanks for sharing your perspectives and the updates, Paul.
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    All sounds great to me Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffingoff View Post
    The Auctioneer is such a sweet production, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the AGE to read it. Right now, I'm reading the ARC of Neuromancer and loving it! We'll see what I get at next. Probably Westlake Soul.

    Anyway, I wanted to ask if The World Doesn't End will ship right after the Wells set. So I'll ask. Will The World Doesn't End ship right after the Wells set? It looks like that numbered edition is all done. And I have the shelf space. I'm also anxious for Bibliomysteries. But I'll rein in those horses and get the anxiety rat off the wheel powering my brain. I realize I'm getting itchy. I understand it's a bad look to be this openly greedy. I'm aware that I just got The Auctioneer and the Wells books will be arriving soon, but it isn't enough, man. It's just not enough.

    Really don't burn yourself out, Paul! Seriously.
    I was going to ask this same thing, Jeff, because I was getting itchy. But it is a bad look to to be so openly greedy so I decided not to inquire. Thanks though.



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    The Auctioneer is such a sweet production, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the AGE to read it. Right now, I'm reading the ARC of Neuromancer and loving it! We'll see what I get at next. Probably Westlake Soul.

    Anyway, I wanted to ask if The World Doesn't End will ship right after the Wells set. So I'll ask. Will The World Doesn't End ship right after the Wells set? It looks like that numbered edition is all done. And I have the shelf space. I'm also anxious for Bibliomysteries. But I'll rein in those horses and get the anxiety rat off the wheel powering my brain. I realize I'm getting itchy. I understand it's a bad look to be this openly greedy. I'm aware that I just got The Auctioneer and the Wells books will be arriving soon, but it isn't enough, man. It's just not enough.

    Really don't burn yourself out, Paul! Seriously.
    I was going to ask this same thing, Jeff, because I was getting itchy. But it is a bad look to to be so openly greedy so I decided not to inquire. Thanks though.



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    Being bad feels pretty good, doesn't it Jeff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDuke View Post
    Being bad feels pretty good, doesn't it Jeff.
    It does! And since looking bad is already expected of me, I can take the bullet for the team.

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    And I may walk with a limp, and get the occasional spasm, in my leg, but at least I do it with style with my Suntup cane which I been complimented several times on.

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