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    So Mike when are you going to head out to California to try out for the role of Bilbo Baggins?
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Well, I already sent my head shots. *crosses fingers*

    They only thing they're concerned with is that I might not be tall enough for the role.

    but here's to hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Beck View Post
    I also thought that they were breaking it into two films at first. It seems weird that they would do one other film that precedes Fellowship? They're going to have to take all that storyline from things hinted at in the books, right?
    Not entirely. In essays and other writings of Tolkien's [much published in "Unfinished Tales" and the rest of Christopher Tolkien's "History of Middle Earth" series. Much of the groundwork for these stories of the time between the Hobbit and Fellowship is covered. There doesn't seem to be many periods of time that Tolkien didn't address about Middle Earth from the creation of Arda to well into the time past Aragorn's reign. The stuff about the White Council or how Aragorn and Gandalf found Gollum are a little more detailed than say Aragorn's time with the the Rohirrim and in Minas Tirith, but it's all there.

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    I know they could never adapt it to the big screen, but some of the events in the Silmarillion would be awesome to see. If anyone likes lord of the rings and hasn't read this book, you really should. It's like the bible of middle earth, and will make a huge dork of you.

    As folken know from the LotR thread, I am a huge dork already.
    I agree totally Mike that the Silmarillion stories would make for great film fare. I re-read that at least annually.

    Once you become obsessed with the Silmarillion there is still Chris Tolkien's multi-volume History of Middle Earth series. Parts of it read like parts of the Silmarillion, long story passages. Parts of it are as detailed a look at his dad's writing process as you will find, comparing drafts to the published versions, and exploring Tolkien's outlines and correspondences with friends/publishers about Middle-Earth. All of it makes for great reading for Tolkien dorks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Beck View Post
    Well, I already sent my head shots. *crosses fingers*

    They only thing they're concerned with is that I might not be tall enough for the role.

    but here's to hoping.

    Didn't they digitally shrink all the actors that played the hobbits?
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Beck View Post
    Well, I already sent my head shots. *crosses fingers*

    They only thing they're concerned with is that I might not be tall enough for the role.

    but here's to hoping.

    Didn't they digitally shrink all the actors that played the hobbits?
    PJ used a combination of digital techniques and camera angles to force perspective to make the hobbits appear adequately small.

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    There you go Mike. You're all set!
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    i am looking foward to seeing the Lonely Mountain on the screen. I know what it's looked like in my head since I was a kid, but seeing it on screen will be sweet. I definitely want to see all the scenes Mike mentioned previously, but the one I always enjoy is the arrivals of Bilbo's dwarf guests and Bilbo's reaction to the progression. It was nice to see Bag-End in LotR, but it is in the Hobbit where we really get to see it in action with Bilbo's food prep and the dwarves' little song about it.

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    Ah, All Hail!! You bring hope back to my heart.

    R of G. I still have to read the Unfinished Tales/Lost Tales stuff. and I have some of the Christopher Tolkien books, but haven't really got into them yet.

    Oh, I forgot about the Lonely Mountain and the Eagles and the Wolves! Ah, there's so much goodness in that book.

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    Mike, if/when you get into them, the last third or so of Unfinished Tales is where you'll find all the post-Silmarillion/pre-Hobbit stuff, as well as the stuff between Hobbit and LotR. Here you will find such goodies as how/why Gandalf got involved with Thorin, how Gandalf attempted to thwart Saruman's search for the One Ring, the coming of the Eorlingas to Rohan and the allegiance between Rohan and Gondor, etc... etc... you know, all the stuff hinted at in LotR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Beck View Post
    Ah, All Hail!! You bring hope back to my heart.
    This is a common result of my very presence.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Hmmmm...its always despair for me.

    Mikes "not tall enough to play a hobbit" comment made me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Hmmmm...its always despair for me.
    ...
    That too of course.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    I don't want this movie to have PJ's "feel", I want it to be all Del Toro, however unlikely that may be.

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    Sad News for this Movie. I just read that the Tolkien "estate" is filing a suit against New Line because they did not get their proper cut of the original trilogy. (See "'Lord' These Lawsuits Are Becoming a Hobbit" in the Feb 22 Entertainment Weekly) They want to get $150 million AND stop The Hobbit from being made by New Line! WTF.

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    Del Toro! Awesome!
    Hugh Laurie for Gandalf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBE View Post
    Sad News for this Movie. I just read that the Tolkien "estate" is filing a suit against New Line because they did not get their proper cut of the original trilogy. (See "'Lord' These Lawsuits Are Becoming a Hobbit" in the Feb 22 Entertainment Weekly) They want to get $150 million AND stop The Hobbit from being made by New Line! WTF.
    i can't say i'm saddened by this. Tolkien's family should have control. It's his work, and they know it far better than the folks at New Line do. After reading the History of Middle Earth series I'm almost as big a fan of Christopher Tolkien as I am his father.

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    Why the hell didnt they just pay it in the first place. Greedy and stupid I suppose. They have no-one to blame but themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RUBE View Post
    Sad News for this Movie. I just read that the Tolkien "estate" is filing a suit against New Line because they did not get their proper cut of the original trilogy. (See "'Lord' These Lawsuits Are Becoming a Hobbit" in the Feb 22 Entertainment Weekly) They want to get $150 million AND stop The Hobbit from being made by New Line! WTF.
    i can't say i'm saddened by this. Tolkien's family should have control. It's his work, and they know it far better than the folks at New Line do. After reading the History of Middle Earth series I'm almost as big a fan of Christopher Tolkien as I am his father.
    I'm inclined to agree.
    Pure greed on the part of new Line etc...
    In LotR they were getting some of the best Movie-material ever written. They should have had more respect for that.
    Hopefully they will settle properly with the Tolkien Estate & then get on with making these movies.
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    I love the title of the Entertainment Weekly article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    i can't say i'm saddened by this. Tolkien's family should have control. It's his work, and they know it far better than the folks at New Line do. After reading the History of Middle Earth series I'm almost as big a fan of Christopher Tolkien as I am his father.
    Then the good Professor shouldn't have sold the film rights in the 60s to pay off his taxes.

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    Del Toro to give a definite answer within the next 4 to 5 days on whether or not he will direct The Hobbit.

    http://movies.ign.com/articles/868/868003p1.html

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    IT'S OFFICIAL! DEL TORO WILL HELM BOTH HOBBIT MOVIES!



    April 24, 2008 - Director Guillermo del Toro is a man of his word. Just this past weekend, he told IGN during an exclusive interview at New York Comic-Con that within five days there would be an official announcement — one way or another — as to his involvement with the feature film adaptation of The Hobbit. And that time has come.

    Variety is reporting that the director has now been signed to helm both The Hobbit and it's sequel — a film meant to seamlessly bridge the 60-year gap between the aforementioned movie and The Fellowship of the Ring. Upon completion of his current project — Hellboy II: The Golden Army — del Toro will be moving to New Zealand for four years, where he will oversee production of the two films with Executive Producer Peter Jackson, as well as creature and effects house WETA Workshop. He will follow Jackson's filmmaking model and shoot both movies back-to-back.

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    From Yahoo:

    Please note that this version DELETES INCORRECT reference to second movie spanning time between "Hobbit" and "Rings"; New Line now says movies are based on book only.

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    Hmmmmmm.
    Dunno which I'd like more.
    Hobbit split into 2 movies -or- Hobbit + sequel/LotR prequel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John_and_Yoko View Post
    New Line now says movies are based on book only.
    so does that eliminate PJ from being involved in any way since he likes to add in his own material?

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