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    From IGN.com:

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    Del Toro Signed for The Hobbit
    Official announcement made at Orphanage premiere.

    by IGN Staff


    February 1, 2008 - It was reported earlier this week that Mexican filmmaker Guillermo Del Toro had been in negotiations to direct both The Hobbit and another film based on the works of J.R.R. Tolkien for New Line Cinema and MGM. Del Toro has now been announced as having officially signed on to direct the two films.

    According to the British newspaper The Guardian, the announcement was made at the French premiere of the del Toro-produced thriller The Orphanage. "Today is a big day because we are announcing what everyone wanted to hear, which is that he will be directing The Hobbit," the host reportedly told the audience as he introduced del Toro.

    Oscar winner Peter Jackson, who directed the Lord of the Rings trilogy, will executive produce The Hobbit. The screenplay cannot be worked on, however, until after the writers' strike ends.


    New Line and MGM have tentatively penciled in principal photography for the two films -- which will be shot back-to-back -- for 2009, with a budget of $150 million per film. The first is slated for release in 2010, with the second the following year.

    The Hobbit, written by Tolkien in 1937, takes place many years before The Lord of the Rings and centers on young Bilbo Baggins, who, along with a group of dwarves and Gandalf the wizard, embark on a quest to steal the treasure of Smaug the dragon. The first movie will reportedly tell this story, while the second will show events immediately preceding the beginning of The Fellowship of the Ring.

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    Awesome!

    I can't wait.
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    Cast speculation?

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    oh how i wish PJ wasn't gonna be involved in the script-writing, but a different director is intriguing. i'm sure i will see it.

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    I am a huge LOTR fan, and I am going to see it the day it comes out.
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    I am pretty excited but am up in the air on the two movies. At first I thought they were spitting up the story into two chapters but now I am reading different...
    I love LotR but I don't know it front to back (like the DT perhaps) so I can't recall if there is enough material to do a "prequel" type second movie. Can anyone answer this...perhaps Brian ?

    As far as cast goes, Gandalf stays the same or plain and simple I won't watch them. I would like to see the same Bilbo but perhaps he is too old to play a younger Bilbo?
    Director choice is a good one, I think.
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    Del Toro??.........Sweet!!!

    I'm not a huge LOTR fan, but, G. Del Toro is awesome.
    Momma told me there would be DAYS like this. SHe is coming back around, though...to put things back the way they should be. HIS story? Nah...we've had enough of that.

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    I agree about Gandalf. He has to be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteGss View Post
    As far as cast goes, Gandalf stays the same or plain and simple I won't watch them.
    You're full of shit. You know you would.
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    Wrong.

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    Right.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    I liked LOTR but I'm not the least bit interested in The Hobbit.
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    one is inseperable from the other for me. of course either can stand on it's own as a complete story, but i prefer to look at the entirety of tolkien's middle world writings as one very very long story from Silmarillion through the Hobbit through LotR. It's all inter-related.

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    I for one can't wait. I'm kind of surprised about Petey boy not directing but as long as he is heavily involved in it thats the important thing.
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    if he is heavily involved in the look of it, it will look right, but i still am cautious about his script involvement. either way i will see it, but if he makes up more material like he did with LotR in expense of real material from the book, it will piss me off again. the hobbit is not hard to do right. it's more straightforward than LotR and you stick with Bilbo pretty much all the way through. i do agree that McKellan should play Gandalf again if for nothing more than consistencies sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    if he is heavily involved in the look of it, it will look right, but i still am cautious about his script involvement. either way i will see it, but if he makes up more material like he did with LotR in expense of real material from the book, it will piss me off again. the hobbit is not hard to do right. it's more straightforward than LotR and you stick with Bilbo pretty much all the way through. i do agree that McKellan should play Gandalf again if for nothing more than consistencies sake.
    Ah, you're a LOTR/Hobbit purist I see. Understandable. I've never been a big Tolkien fan, so I'm not, while I do love his books. I agree McKellan and whats-his-name who played Bilbo should all be in it but I'm not going to not go see the movies if they're not. Like certain little whiney nancy boys I won't mention the name of...



















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    okay so I lied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    I agree McKellan and whats-his-name who played Bilbo should all be in it but I'm not going to not go see the movies if they're not.
    Ian Holm is prob too old to play Bilbo as young as he was in the Hobbit. That could be recast I think without too many people crying foul. He was a great older Bilbo, but few would buy him in all the action he'd need to be able to do for the Hobbit [think barrel-riding out of Elven custody for example]. I'm a Tolkien geek, I'll see the movies regardless.

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    I don't know...they really can do magic. We'll just have to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    I for one can't wait. I'm kind of surprised about Petey boy not directing but as long as he is heavily involved in it thats the important thing.
    Yeah, as long as PJ is at the helm guiding Del Toro it should turn out fine. Del Toro is a great choice however, visually he is ready for the opportunity, he's fat like PJ was, and Pan's Labyrinth is a fantastic film.

    The only question I have is the second of these films. What book did Tolkien write that covers this? Oh that's right he didn't.

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    First (& middle & last) I'm just over the moon that this project is now real at last. Great that PJ is involved - dunno this del Toro at all, but I'll take your words on him above.

    Agree Sir Ian has to do Gandalf again.
    No way Ian Holm can do Bilbo however - and I agree that should not be a problem.

    Material for the 2nd film eh?
    I think they can come up with plenty. Maybe they finish th Hobbit after the Battle of 5 armies & put the homecoming in the 2nd (or not?). Then there's Gollum's wanderings after he comes out from under the mountains.... all the way to Morder & capture & torture & escape/release. Aragorn & Gandalf's hiunt for him - eventual capture. Escape again etc...
    Then the White Council stuff. Gandalf's invasion of Dol Guldor. Sauron's fleeing from same & return to Mordor & beginning to build those armies. Sauruman's first footsteps on the road to treachery?
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    Yeah, Mackellan NEEDS to reprise Gandalf in this one
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    I have to say that I'm pretty excited to see a new director. I think it will still have the Peter Jackson feel as he is producing but a new director sounds good. I didn't think New Line wound ultimately let anyone else direct but I guess maybe Peter was willing to let new blood in.


    I think Peter Jackson is fantastic but I think The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the Ring and King Kong was just a little much. Kind of like his ego got in the way. All the slow mo close ups and character goodbyes got to be a bit annoying. New Blood = Good to me



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    Momma told me there would be DAYS like this. SHe is coming back around, though...to put things back the way they should be. HIS story? Nah...we've had enough of that.

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    Del Toro is a fantastic choice for this! I think he'll really make these films amazing.

    Firstly, I am really excited that they're doing this. I loved the hobbit. It's not as gritty as LotR, but it's got some very memorable scenes in it, and how can you not like Bilbo Baggins?

    I also thought that they were breaking it into two films at first. It seems weird that they would do one other film that precedes Fellowship? They're going to have to take all that storyline from things hinted at in the books, right?

    I was always intrigued by Gandalf and Aragorn and the whole thing with the Necromancer. And wanted to know more about what went down.

    Things I'm looking forward to: The Three Trolls, Beorn, Elves of Mirkwood, Spiders, Smaug, Bard, Laketown, and the Battle of the Five Armies (<-- this should be quite amazing).

    I know they could never adapt it to the big screen, but some of the events in the Silmarillion would be awesome to see. If anyone likes lord of the rings and hasn't read this book, you really should. It's like the bible of middle earth, and will make a huge dork of you.

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