Yeah that's what some friends and I have been talking about.Originally Posted by Spencer
OR: It did go off, but the bomb created a NEW, separate reality, instead of changing the current one.
oh also here is an interesting video to think about for this season with the two different stories going on.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bTvAUVPyLI"]YouTube- New Lost Season 4 Sneak Peak!!! New Hatch!, The Orchid[/ame]
I thought this.I see some a certain similarity to the paradox created when roland saved jake in drawing of the three
there was a boy/ there wasnt a boy
there was a planecrash/ there wasnt a planecrash
except nearly as much in the minds of the audience as the characters in the show
trippy
I kept thinking of the diagram Roland drew, where instead of it being a straight line, it's two paths that go off and eventually have to meet for some closure.
2:45 am- 11th February 2008- I Finished The Dark Tower
Jack seems to be the only one who has a sense of deja vu or something unusual going on. Sort of like Jake with his dual memories competing.
I didn't catch that the first time around, unless you're talking about the Jack that's on the plane. I did catch that sense from him.
He asked Desmond if he knew him from somewhere, so there was clearly a connection there. And there were at least a couple of other times when he did a pause or took a beat as if something was going on.
This is pretty cool -- Jack on the plane side-by-side
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1qzelSWpE&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Oceanic 815 - Side by Side[/ame]
I'm on board with the analogy drawn between what we have seen so far and the first half of Wastelands. I think it might be a cool way to go with it.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
I thought about this connection. He met Desmond when jogging didn't he? If he didn't recognise him immediately, then perhaps that never happens. Perhaps some of the connections aren't there anymore. It makes me think of the DT loops.
2:45 am- 11th February 2008- I Finished The Dark Tower
Personally, and I'm just going to throw this out there ...
... I think this whole show is going to end up being exposed as an elaborate inner fantasy life of a young autistic boy.
Oh wait.
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
Remember, Remember, The Fifth of November, The Gunpowder, Treason, and Plot.
I just heard the GREAT, (though I'm sure, probably old by now), news that Cynthia Watros is gonna do a run this season. She's one of my favorite actresses ever, and I was pissed when Libby didn't show up on the plane, I'm happy to hear that she'll show up somehow.
I just remembered that Jack could possibly recognize Desmond because they met before the island -- the day at the running track.
There's also a possibility that Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet) will return before the end again, too.
I thought of that at the time, but he also seemed to be having weird reactions to other things as well. Also, since other things are changed it may be that in the other timeline Jack never met Desmond while running.
A true firewasp ninja would never wear such a ridiculous sweater.
There's logic in nonsense.
Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
An average viewer's rendition of a catch up show.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcatQSyRK6c"]YouTube- Previously on Lost : What?[/ame]
Actually, it IS. In fact, every show that has ever aired on TV exists only in the mind of little Tommy Westphall.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~kwgow/crossovers.html
Actually, it IS. In fact, every show that has ever aired on TV exists only in the mind of little Tommy Westphall.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~kwgow/crossovers.html
The Man In Black Fled Across The Desert...
...And The Gunslinger Followed.
“I’m always on the Batman rule, sir.” - Kate Kane / Detective Comics 857
"It is the story, not he who tells it." Except to us collectors who have to put limits somewhere. - jhanic
and one for you.Actually, it IS. In fact, every show that has ever aired on TV exists only in the mind of little Tommy Westphall.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~kwgow/crossovers.html
So...
Smokey (Man In Black) says he is a "who" not a "what". But was his "man in black" body his either then? Was that another body he found dead and inhabited to speak with Jacob in the scene where the Black Rock is on it's way towards the island? Or do you think that really was his body?
Also...do you think that the people Smokey killed earlier on may have been not only out of "judgement" but also so that he could use their specific bodies to morph into? I'm wondering if that is how maybe Hurley saw Anna Lucia pull him over...and try to convice them to stay the course. Can Smokey go off of the island?
Of course I wonder about Christian and who his apperation really is. I want to believe it is Christian, but it makes more sense that someone is using his body like Lockes. I wonder what him and Claire have been up to.
"The wise are not wise because they make no mistakes. They are wise because they correct their mistakes as soon as they recognize them."
-Orson Scott Card
She will return eventually. It hasn't been said where, but she is going to be filming again near the end of production of the series, I read this here in an interview with the actress (Elizabeth Mitchell) that plays Juliet:
http://www.seattlepi.com/tvguide/415013_tvgif3.html
"The wise are not wise because they make no mistakes. They are wise because they correct their mistakes as soon as they recognize them."
-Orson Scott Card
What I don't get is that shouldn't an 'alternate' no-crash universe have already existed, even before the people in one reality moved back in time and blew up the bomb? Or does the island crash occur in all possible realities for some reason?
So far I've assumed that the Lost writers are going by the "many-worlds" theory of alternate realities, but maybe I'm wrong. Judging by the strong DT influence, and the way that Fringe explicitly states that theory as the basis for the main story, it makes sense that the people behind Lost would also have that interpretation in mind.
"Many-worlds...views reality as a many-branched tree where every possible quantum outcome is realised."
So one possible outcome would have to involve the plane not crashing, right? Then the bomb couldn't have changed anything, because there would already be a universe (or several) where the plane didn't crash.
I think a really interesting idea would be that the island is a nexus like the Tower in DT, and so reality doesn't work the same way in such a place. There could only be one version of the island no matter what, that always makes the plane crash, and so destroying the island (and creating that universe) did something reeeally crazy.
I really hope they bring Titus Welliver back as the MiB, and stop this whole weird fake Locke thing. It's annoying. Plus Titus Welliver is super gorgeous.
A true firewasp ninja would never wear such a ridiculous sweater.
There's logic in nonsense.
Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
I think Sayid is the new Jacob.
That is why it was so important to get him there.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
uh oh. I hadn't thought of that before as an option.
A true firewasp ninja would never wear such a ridiculous sweater.
There's logic in nonsense.
Give me all the bacon and eggs you have.
but Bad-Locke is so well BADand O'Quinn is such an awesome actor that comparing bad locke to real locke (the live one in the alternate reality not the dead one on the beach) it feels like a TOTALLY different character
if the worlds gonna end then let's get it over with, i got shit to do
There absolutely probably existed an "alternate" no-crash universe. But what makes the one portrayed in the episode important is that it happened directly because of events of another universe. I was hoping they would do this in the Star Trek movie. Maybe in the sequel.
Lost finally airs in the UK
yeah i got to watch the premier and read this thread
i was thinking this same thing while watching - and i was thinkin that they will end up going down the paradox crashing together, non crash jack is definatley not comfortable and senses things. i think they will go down the same route as the wastelands(ish) and the 2 jacks will need to do something to merge the realitiesI see some a certain similarity to the paradox created when roland saved jake in drawing of the three
there was a boy/ there wasnt a boy
there was a planecrash/ there wasnt a planecrash
except nearly as much in the minds of the audience as the characters in the show
trippy
and the wholeSpoiler:
ooo i never thought of that but it does now make sense. MIB needed locke to be dead? and sayid did die...... my brain hurts - and i love itI think Sayid is the new Jacob.
That is why it was so important to get him there.
now - the whole christian thing. i dont think he is connected to either jacob or mib. he has been seen seperatley and he seems to have a different agenda. he seems to be a side player and i think (or should i say hoping with all my little heart) that him and clare are going to play a larger role in this further down the series
final thoughts - for now anyway
DT end spoilerSpoiler:
i just read this and got a little bit excited by the Stand and the Langoliers reference at the bottomtoo much excitment
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