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    THANK YOU... Even if the problem was resolved after the fact ...I don't think we will ever know. IMHO If it turned out it was not a bootleg I don't think King would admit we was wrong & what would be the purpose? "WATER OVER THE DAM"
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    And now a story in Kings favor & to show that Heyne is not above reproach in Nov 1987 I went to a Dennis Etchison signing & presented this book to be signed. I was asked by him if I could get him a Xerox of the cover because he had been told that Heyne had never published this title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by needfulthings View Post
    And now a story in Kings favor & to show that Heyne is not above reproach in Nov 1987 I went to a Dennis Etchison signing & presented this book to be signed. I was asked by him if I could get him a Xerox of the cover because he had been told that Heyne had never published this title.

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    For some reason, I can't see your pics.

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    Yeah, I also can't see them.

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    Probably something to do with whatever new hell ImageShack has done. Perhaps this method of linking to the pics will work?
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    I get a 404 Not Found message with both those links.

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    Those links work for me.

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    I found this letter from King openly calling Barry Levin out for selling the "bootleg" (King's term) edition of Nebel and referring to Es in the process. This was published in Mystery Scene, July/August 1991. I really wish I could find the essay from Edition Phantasia that refutes the "bootleg" status of Es.


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    Question.
    If Edition Phanitasia knew that "ES" was a bootleg with only a print run of 250 copies. Why would they send copies to Underwood & Miller to sell knowing that they had published Fear Itself as a King S/L in 1982 & knowing that they knew King? Was this not like waving a red flag in front of a bull?


    and why did King not take Underwood & Miller to task for selling "ES"?
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    And the worst bit is that the illustrations have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STORY !
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller View Post
    I found this letter from King openly calling Barry Levin out for selling the "bootleg" (King's term) edition of Nebel and referring to Es in the process. This was published in Mystery Scene, July/August 1991. I really wish I could find the essay from Edition Phantasia that refutes the "bootleg" status of Es.

    Where was it published? (the essay where he refutes the bootleg status of ES)
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    Per Justin's bibliography : Mystery Scence #30, july-august of 1991.
    I remember that Bob shared it online in the past, interesting letter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari_Racing View Post
    Where was it published? (the essay where he refutes the bootleg status of ES)
    Unless my memory is playing tricks on me (which seems more and more likely these days) it was written by the publisher/owner of Edition Phantasia and was posted on the EP website for anyone to read. I do recall that the EP website used to have an English language option as well as the German language for the main site. But I can't find that now and Frank (stockerlone) does not remember the essay and does not remember that EP ever had their website in English. Maybe I dreamed all of this but I don't think so. I have sent an e-mail to Mr. Korber for clarification and I'll let you know if I hear back from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ari_Racing View Post
    Where was it published? (the essay where he refutes the bootleg status of ES)
    Unless my memory is playing tricks on me (which seems more and more likely these days) it was written by the publisher/owner of Edition Phantasia and was posted on the EP website for anyone to read. I do recall that the EP website used to have an English language option as well as the German language for the main site. But I can't find that now and Frank (stockerlone) does not remember the essay and does not remember that EP ever had their website in English. Maybe I dreamed all of this but I don't think so. I have sent an e-mail to Mr. Korber for clarification and I'll let you know if I hear back from him.
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    Will be interesting to see what he says if you hear back.

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    I was able to find English content on their website using the way back machine--including "the secret history of Editions Phantasia" but nothing yet that addresses Es.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bev Vincent View Post
    I was able to find English content on their website using the way back machine--including "the secret history of Editions Phantasia" but nothing yet that addresses Es.
    Do you have a link for that "secret history"?

    IIRC, the story on ES was that they had a clear copyright clearance to do the limited edition and did so. Somehow the permission was denied but it was denied well after the book had already been published. The essay was their side of the story and claimed that they did nothing wrong or illegal. I hope I can find it somewhere.

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    If you click on the link at the bottom of the page, you find this:

    Stephen King
    ES (IT)
    ISBN 3-924959-06-4
    Limited edition of 250 copies. World first edition. Published six months before the American edition and following a manuscript which was authorized by King's agent for translation, but later revised by the author, thus differing from the American edition. (Out of print)

    Stephen King
    NEBEL (THE MIST)
    ISBN 3-924959-10-2
    First separate German edition. Illustrated by Herbert Brandmeier. Signed by the artist.
    Limited edition of 500 copies. Nearly the whole edition was destroyed on command of the author, who was obviously not informed of the project by his German mass market publisher, who authorized the limited editon. It is not a bootleg edition, as often quoted. (Out of print)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bev Vincent View Post
    If you click on the link at the bottom of the page, you find this:

    Stephen King
    ES (IT)
    ISBN 3-924959-06-4
    Limited edition of 250 copies. World first edition. Published six months before the American edition and following a manuscript which was authorized by King's agent for translation, but later revised by the author, thus differing from the American edition. (Out of print)

    Stephen King
    NEBEL (THE MIST)
    ISBN 3-924959-10-2
    First separate German edition. Illustrated by Herbert Brandmeier. Signed by the artist.
    Limited edition of 500 copies. Nearly the whole edition was destroyed on command of the author, who was obviously not informed of the project by his German mass market publisher, who authorized the limited editon. It is not a bootleg edition, as often quoted. (Out of print)
    Thanks, Bev. This info combined with the "secret history" may be what I remember reading.

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    Isn't a not authorized edition a bootleg?
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    Yeah I don't get how you can get past their own contradictory statement: "Nearly the whole edition was destroyed on command of the author, who was obviously not informed of the project by his German mass market publisher, who authorized the limited editon. It is not a bootleg edition, as often quoted."

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    King had a deal with Heyne-Verlag. Heyne-Verlag made a deal with Editions Phantasia to produce the limited edition. King didn't authorize a limited edition and Heyne-Verlag apparently overstepped themselves by making the deal with Editions Phantasia.

    I think that Editions Phantasia is defining bootleg as the illegal production of a copyrighted work. They claim they were not acting illegally. While Editions Phantasia may well have thought they had the rights to publish they did not
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