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    Default tdt.org - mobile

    Lately I started to use the forum a lot of my phone
    and really recognize that it's more than finger breaking and frustrating
    to navigate the site.

    I use the mobile app, Tapatalk, for two other boards and found that I would be
    a very easy plugin solution that we could use for the board, that would really
    Enhance the usability!

    Maybe I am the only one, but maybe you (RF ) could insert the pluging
    As it would be a real benefit to the page.

    Maybe not all functions would work, but read and write for sure!
    It's a 5 step process:

    https://tapatalk.com/download_vBulletin.php

    Would be glad to help technically if needed!
    Hope that this is the last message I write in the desktop viewport

    Cheers

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    General improvements to the site are being worked on/looked at currently. One of the options we are looking at is updating the version of the software that the site runs on to be more 'mobile friendly'. Plugins like this will also be considered.
    As I am sure you can appreciate, any kind of major software update (which this would be) needs to be considered carefully and planned. We are in the process of creating a 'Development' version for us to test updates and improvements before we update the main site. Announcements will be made as and when these changes are imminent.
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    That's fantastic to hear, thanks a lot for maintaining and improving the website.
    With tapatalk it's more like a quick fix, it's working out of the box and doesn't need any major improvements , no core update , and no development version that's the good thing about it.

    It is more or less only an API not touching the front-end in anyway


    I already implemented in 4 different systems, and worked like a charm within 10 minutes and gave full mobile experience in seconds.

    So even if you're considering a more mobile template which I guess will take a development system and a lot of testing, please take into account that this plugin will work within a couple of minutes

    Will be happy to support you with that, if you so wish

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    Thanks for the info Sebastian, this is RF's call, I will defer to him.
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    This has been on my mind for some time now. I use the forum a lot on my phone, and I guess I have just got used to it, and found a "workflow" that generally works, however the best experience would be if the forum software were responsive/mobile-friendly.

    I'm familiar with vBulletin, but really haven't looked into what the newer versions can do. I'm guessing there's a responsive version now; however to Simon's point, updating can be a real drag.

    Thanks for your efforts though in looking into improvements and a potential mobile-friendly forum in the near future. Very much appreciated!

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    El Jefe and team. Always hard at work to make this a better place for all!!!
    The Houston Astros cheated Major League Baseball from 2017-18!!!!

    They cheated their way to a couple of League Championships & a World Series!!!!

    Is that how we teach our kids to play the game now?????

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    I'm still unclear how tapatalk would make our site better.
    Explain.4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    I'm still unclear how tapatalk would make our site better.
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    Sebastian can confirm this but it's my understanding that it will make the forum responsive (mobile friendly). So it will be easier to read on mobile devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    I'm still unclear how tapatalk would make our site better.
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    Sebastian can confirm this but it's my understanding that it will make the forum responsive (mobile friendly). So it will be easier to read on mobile devices.
    It's not so much about making the forum more responsive, more about presenting the forum content in a more 'Mobile friendly' manner. It renders the various threads and areas in a way that makes it easier to read, find and respond on a mobile device.

    see this screenshot for an idea of how this looks:

    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    Tapatalk is an app (free) for android and iOS, that is specialized for boards like this.

    It delivers what you could call an own frontend, like a responsive theme would do, but without the hustle to create and test one,
    accessing the same data.

    The only thing that it needs is an API that the app can talk to , and thats the plugin that you would need to install.
    This doesn't effect the page itself in anyway, it just gives the app the possibility to act with the board.

    So what you get is an app on your mobile, tested and optimized for reading & writing, plus messaging , so the main parts of
    the board , without that the host (thats you) has to adapt anything on the core page.

    You have (if you want) push notification for new posts, and messages and especially, not this crazy small screen and impossible to click buttons ;D

    So long story short.
    Install the plugin, download the app and have an optimized mobile access to tdt.org without touching the core website
    vs.
    update the whole platform , find and install a responsive theme and spend a month testing, adapting all parts that are custom made


    Downside - you need the app
    Upside, you might find new members of the board through the app community.


    i love it especially for messaging, so if i get a pm while on the road it`s 100x more comfortable to answer via the app

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelig View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    I'm still unclear how tapatalk would make our site better.
    Explain.4
    Sebastian can confirm this but it's my understanding that it will make the forum responsive (mobile friendly). So it will be easier to read on mobile devices.
    Nope, not touching the website itself - only providing the data to a mobile friendly environment


    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    It's not so much about making the forum more responsive, more about presenting the forum content in a more 'Mobile friendly' manner.
    It renders the various threads and areas in a way that makes it easier to read, find and respond on a mobile device.
    well said

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    Here is reasonable overview video for iphone


    and here is a newer version running on Android
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    I'm sorry, but for right now that seems worthless.
    A person now uses an app to look at the site. I suppose if you subscribe to numerous discussion forums it might help.

    In the 4 minutes plus the person took to get to a subscribed thread, or to check a notification, any reasonable user of a smart phone that wants to use our site would already have posted.

    Maybe I should shoot a 2 minute video as to how easy the site can be used with a cell phone.

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    google ux principles state, that every clickable element on a mobile should have at least 60*60px to be clickable,
    non of the important elements of the page has this on a mobile due to the scaled viewport.

    if you are not pinching the size, even if you do this, some elements are very hard to use. (last post in topic icon,pagination f.e.)

    There are a view points, that make it really hard to navigate ( from my pov )
    Topic titles in the search are cut of, pm window is not scaling to the screen, elements are overlapping and are not arranged in the right order, font are sometimes scailing, sometimes not ;D
    All of this is fine, as the page was just not made for mobile, and it looks great on desktop, but its incredible arduous to navigate, pinch big, scroll, pinch bigger, click , wanna read ? pinch smaller again...

    Would be solved, at least for everybody who wants a more 2015 user experience with 5 minutes of work and no downside. The 2 minutes you need for the video and the plugin is installed.
    Who wants to use the page like it is can do that, but you would offer a state of the art alternative for all others.

    So why not ? Cant lose anything ,but win a lot! don't you think ?

    p.s.
    Not 100% sure what you are referencing to with the 4 minutes plus,sry!

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    Posted from tapatalk. After some "fun" getting it to work. (Documentation was poor fyi not so easy)

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    Aaa wee!! You're the man!

    Thank you !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priest View Post
    Aaa wee!! You're the man!

    Thank you !!!
    Less than a day:

    • Member suggestion
    • Flagg saying no
    • Flagg saying yes
    Done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Priest View Post
    Aaa wee!! You're the man!

    Thank you !!!
    Awful lot of work for one person.
    Sure hope lots of other people use it.

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    Being able to speed read through all unread posts without having to open each one individually! worth it for that feature alone
    "A real limited edition, far from being an expensive autograph stapled to a novel, is a treasure. And like all treasures do, it transforms the responsible owner into a caretaker, and being a caretaker of something as fragile and easily destroyed as ideas and images is not a bad thing but a good one...and so is the re-evaluation of what books are and what they do that necessarily follows." - Stephen King

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    Less than a day:
    • Member suggestion
    • Flagg saying no
    • Flagg saying yes
    Done

    a good deed a day !
    really, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    Awful lot of work for one person.
    Sure hope lots of other people use it.
    you should have some statistics on that, but i am sure that they will!

    Quote Originally Posted by stroppygoblin View Post
    Being able to speed read through all unread posts without having to open each one individually! worth it for that feature alone
    +1
    and to be notified when you get quoted ! love hat feature. !

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    Oh yeah! I just installed it and am now hooked up to the forum via the app. Still need to spend some time using it but so far it's fantastic! Thanks guys.

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    I hate tapatalk with all my soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Alien View Post
    I hate tapatalk with all my soul.
    Then don't utilize it.

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