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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo View Post
    Thanks, Pablo! I edited my post above with two more questions.

    Also, I didn't participate much, but you did a great job with that tournament.

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    Are we going to do a greatest villain tournament? If so, We'll take a few weeks off from tournaments and I'll start up the nominations in March. I'll be out of town for about ten days next week so it will have to wait until then.
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    So, is it Greatest Villan for the next tournament?
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    I say ok.

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    How about we get at least five people to second the idea of a Greatest Villain Tournament? Just a suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladysai View Post
    So, is it Greatest Villan for the next tournament?
    Speak up denizens of tdt.org!

    I say ok.
    There's one!

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    Reading over the thread from the beginning, there have been some good suggestions for various tournaments we could have. I'm down for whatever, I just hope it's not off-site, since we know we will have our archives here for future generations, but who knows about a random third-party site? That said, my preference would be for another genre or type of film. Some good suggestions in the past were: drama, action, animated, western, musical... I noted previously, we could do a specific amount of different types of films (having already done horror, sci-fi, and comedy), and them pit the winners against one another. That could be fun.

    The villain tournament could be fun as well, but interestingly enough Collider Movie Talk crew has just started that same tournament: https://twitter.com/ColliderVideo/st...95495399198720

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    I'm up for the villains. I don't want to spend a genre tournament on brackify if it doesn't work out well in everyone's opinion, we can use the traditional format for it for the genres. Nothing stopping us from doing 'fun' tournaments this way.
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    I vote for Best Second Unit Boom Operator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Dogz_AK47 View Post
    I vote for Best Second Unit Boom Operator.
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    Meh.

    We know that Darth Vader will at least be in the final four, more than likely he will be the winner. Seems like a fairly predictable end to the tournament.

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    Maybe but what would the final 4 be? Or the final 10? Could be fun either way but questions abound. Would villains be a nomination per film or as overall villains? Would Vader only be a nomination for IV or for the whole series? Would Dracula as a character be counted for individual films or as an overall villain? Godzilla, Pinhead, Krueger etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Maybe but what would the final 4 be? Or the final 10? Could be fun either way but questions abound. Would villains be a nomination per film or as overall villains? Would Vader only be a nomination for IV or for the whole series? Would Dracula as a character be counted for individual films or as an overall villain? Godzilla, Pinhead, Krueger etc.?
    Don't get me wrong, it would be fun leading up to that. I just think it might end up being anticlimactic.

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    Maybe but what would the final 4 be? Or the final 10? Could be fun either way but questions abound. Would villains be a nomination per film or as overall villains? Would Vader only be a nomination for IV or for the whole series? Would Dracula as a character be counted for individual films or as an overall villain? Godzilla, Pinhead, Krueger etc.?
    Don't get me wrong, it would be fun leading up to that. I just think it might end up being anticlimactic.
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    What would also be cool are all the pics Bruce could share along the way.

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    I find most of these tournaments go down fairly predictable routes until the final couple of rounds anyways, with popularity always carrying things through very far.

    I didn't follow the greatest song tournament since I missed out on most of the nominating process, but it would surprise me to see a Beatles song having won it, Hotel California or Comfortably Numb. I just remember being disappointed no one nominated any Bob Dylan or any Guess Who :'(

    EDIT - Just looked, and Hotel California tied for first I guess? I'm not surprised.
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    I think I can help if I can control my own impatience. Something cross-genre like a Best Villain contest sounds great to me because, even when what you are "creating" is just lists of other people's movies, nobody wants to spend a lot of time simply painting by numbers. However, the partial dissatisfaction which some of us feel about some parts of the methods in past voting is a separate matter. Too many changes at once might make the already difficult task of democratic course correction absolutely overwhelming. Not that another massive class of film like comedy would be simpler. It is reassuring that we are talking about a briefer round next since it's experimental; perhaps one of the less exciting, narrower genres would actually be wise this time. I don't see any better idea right now than Mattrick's plan, but the point pablo brought up about record-keeping makes sense. I notice at times not everyone remembers all of our already vast archives the same way as it is. I can volunteer to compile history. If we use offsite resources, all of it should be reported here. Experience also tells me that the would-be secretary will face a real can of worms in cases of real-time nominating, besides that type of first come/first served process being hard to keep up with for participants. We should think about rules for an open review phase to any deadlines we set up before the results can officially count, for the sake of both fairness and clarity.

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    The only tournament I( want to hear about is the NCAA Men's basketball one!!!!!!! March Madness is nigh upon us!!!!!
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    One thing I'll be doing is more regulating the nomination process a little more. I can't remember which tournament it was...I think it was comedy or sci-fi but couldn't find the post in search, but during one of the nominations processes, I tabulated how many nominations per person, and how many seconds and these were the results (it was actually this thread lol) http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...l=1#post910857

    The actual list I put down in the post seems to have vanished, but the heart of the data still remains.

    I am thinking a cap of nominations, a cap of seconds, maybe introducing thirds and some measure to slow down the process. The comedy tournament was over and done with in four days, which is just too short. I have the worst luck personally with these tournaments as nominations always seem to happen when I'm not on the site, and then I've missed.

    Whatever tournament we decide to do, nominations will Begin March 3rd. So everyone mark that date on your calendars or your brain.

    If we're doing villains, I don't think we'll need to go higher than a 64 entry tournament. If we think we can nominate 128 villains, then we can do a bigger, multi-layered tournament. That, or we'll do an even number...80 or 90 or 100, and we'll do some polls to see who makes it to the elimination bracket. We've got three weeks to figure it out! I personally like the idea of doing polls to lead up to the bracket. It'll work straight up votes. The lowest X number of votes don't advance.

    Brackify relies on a seeding system, but I won't be seeding films, as that just helps bigger/more popular titles advance. It will all be randomised. The two most popular villains could potentially meet in round one and there can only be one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by needfulthings View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    One thing I'll be doing is more regulating the nomination process a little more. I can't remember which tournament it was...I think it was comedy or sci-fi but couldn't find the post in search, but during one of the nominations processes, I tabulated how many nominations per person, and how many seconds and these were the results (it was actually this thread lol) http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...l=1#post910857

    The actual list I put down in the post seems to have vanished, but the heart of the data still remains.

    I am thinking a cap of nominations, a cap of seconds, maybe introducing thirds and some measure to slow down the process. The comedy tournament was over and done with in four days, which is just too short. I have the worst luck personally with these tournaments as nominations always seem to happen when I'm not on the site, and then I've missed.

    Whatever tournament we decide to do, nominations will Begin March 3rd. So everyone mark that date on your calendars or your brain.

    If we're doing villains, I don't think we'll need to go higher than a 64 entry tournament. If we think we can nominate 128 villains, then we can do a bigger, multi-layered tournament. That, or we'll do an even number...80 or 90 or 100, and we'll do some polls to see who makes it to the elimination bracket. We've got three weeks to figure it out! I personally like the idea of doing polls to lead up to the bracket. It'll work straight up votes. The lowest X number of votes don't advance.

    Brackify relies on a seeding system, but I won't be seeding films, as that just helps bigger/more popular titles advance. It will all be randomised. The two most popular villains could potentially meet in round one and there can only be one!
    I agree. The nominating process can sometimes get chaotic and confusing. I've mentioned it before, but I think people should submit a list of their top villains. If a villain appears on 3 (or whatever number we decide) lists, they're automatically in.

    Obviously, we aren't going to make a list of 128. The remaining will have to be decided by some other process. More than likely a nominating component.

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    I'm good with whatever everyone wants to do. And I agree the nomination phase needs to be reworked. We could cap it at so many noms, or we could give people a week to put together a list of their top 20 or whatever number, and whoever is on it the most gets in?
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    How about we do a new TV tournament instead of another movie one? We did The Best TV Series of All Time six years ago: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/...es-of-All-Time But I was just thinking it would be interesting to do a Best TV Series Since 2000. Looking over that initial TV tournament now, I feel it was a tad restrictive even though the outcome itself turned our really well, I think (The Twilight Zone is the best TV series of all time). This time we would only nominate shows that premiered in the 21st century, with the dawn of "Peak TV" heralded by The Sopranos in 1999. Back then, of course, we had no Netflix, Amazon, or Hulu series competing, so this will be very different. We can follow the same model used for the comedy film tournament with 200 seconded nominations, giving us about 12 show per year.

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