Best Horror Movie Tournament - Nominations

[mae]

What would the format be for this tournament?

[mae]

And yes, The Vanishing is the original though as far as Funny Games, that's tough because both versions are great (directed by the same director shot-for-shot).

[Heather19]

Here's what I was thinking, I was just waiting to hear back from Feev. Let me know if you have any suggestions.

Round 1 would consist of 16 groups of 8 with the top 2 films moving onto round 2. Round 2 will consist of 8 groups of 4 with the top film moving onto the next round. Round 3 will consist of 4 groups of 2 with the winner making in onto the semi-finals, which will then be put into a group with the top 2 going head to head in a final round.

[mae]

How about in Round 1 we have the top three move on to Round 2 (48), because chopping the roster down to 32 right away seems a bit drastic. So Round 2 will be 12 instead of 8 groups, but otherwise the same. And it would be multiple choice to vote for the three to move on in the first round, right?

[fearless-freak]

so when does the culling start?

[Jean]

I can't believe nobody nominated this yet, so hopefully you won't mind if I go out of turn for the last spot:

128. Let's Scare Jessica to Death

yes, that would have been my last nomination! great that it's there now

and many thanks to all dear friends for letting bears vote out of turn that once!

[Heather19]

How about in Round 1 we have the top three move on to Round 2 (48), because chopping the roster down to 32 right away seems a bit drastic. So Round 2 will be 12 instead of 8 groups, but otherwise the same. And it would be multiple choice to vote for the three to move on in the first round, right?

Three sounds good. And I'm going to keep it similar to the past ones we've done. It'll be all single voting, so just vote for the one you want to move on the most.

The first rounds will be put up shortly.

[Still Servant]

105. The Mummy Trilogy


A list of greatest Horror films MUST include, Frankenstein, Dracula, The Werewolf, The Mummy and a monster or two more!! LOL

You don't consider Jaws horror, but you do consider the Mummy trilogy horror? Are we talking about the Brendan Fraser films? I just don't get that. If that's the case, then we should consider Indiana Jones horror because it has melting skeletons and creepy voodoo dudes.

That is not fair. The Mummy is a supernatural entity even though the films are kinda "action/adventure". "Jaws" is a fish. Wholly natural.

It seems like you're hung up on the idea of horror films having to have a supernatural quality. I don't subscribe to that idea. I guess it's just a difference of taste and philosophy. Therefore, they probably both should be in. We will sort it out later.

[Heather19]

First polls have been posted

[Merlin1958]

105. The Mummy Trilogy


A list of greatest Horror films MUST include, Frankenstein, Dracula, The Werewolf, The Mummy and a monster or two more!! LOL

You don't consider Jaws horror, but you do consider the Mummy trilogy horror? Are we talking about the Brendan Fraser films? I just don't get that. If that's the case, then we should consider Indiana Jones horror because it has melting skeletons and creepy voodoo dudes.

That is not fair. The Mummy is a supernatural entity even though the films are kinda "action/adventure". "Jaws" is a fish. Wholly natural.

It seems like you're hung up on the idea of horror films having to have a supernatural quality. I don't subscribe to that idea. I guess it's just a difference of taste and philosophy. Therefore, they probably both should be in. We will sort it out later.

Like I said before. Agree to disagree and we can move on. I have a different opinion than others, stated my case and was fairly out voted. No issue from me. Though I reserve the right to my opinion. I am looking forward to the voting and we shall see what we see. I guess I am showing my age to a degree. In my day a "Horror" movie included a supernatural element. I don't consider say, Saw or Scream to be a "Horror flick". To me they are "slasher" films. Horrible, gross, shocking? yes, but not a "Horror Movie". I'm just stating my opinion and view. Let's go VOTE!!!

[Still Servant]

I know you want to drop the subject, and I'm fine with that, but I'm still trying to understand. I'm not trying to be combative. I don't consider there to be any supernatural quality to films like Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Under your definition, both of those films wouldn't be considered horror. I hope you can see how odd that might seem to others. I know you are classifying them as "slasher" films, but that's merely a sub-genre of horror.

I could see not counting Jaws, but Halloween?

[Jean]

I generally don't know if we can define "horror" to universal satisfaction. The first definition that leaps to mind is, "a movie whose primary aim is to scare". This would leave out all films with a meaning, from Repulsion to Pontypool. If we define it as "inspiring a feeling of fear and disturbance during most of the running time", we'll have to include tons of dramas, from "M" to Apocalypto. Thus, we are doomed to rely on intuition only. If someone considers something a horror film, let it be.

I, for example, had to tie my own paws not to nominate The Tenant, which is, in my opinion, the best horror, drama, comedy, and whatever other genre one can think of... but I'd hate to see my favorite film of all times losing to something like The Ring, so I passed. Such considerations help keep nominations within reason, anyway.

How many of those on the list has anyone seen? My count is 84, and I am going to improve it before the tournament is over.

[mae]

I would consider The Tenant a horror film, being in the psychological horror sub-genre perhaps. I actually wanted to nominate it, but I though you would, Jean.

How many of those on the list has anyone seen? My count is 84, and I am going to improve it before the tournament is over.

My watched count from the overall list in an even 80. Don't know if I'll be able to squeeze in all 48 movies, but I'll definitely try checking out most of them.

[Iwritecode]

I say Evil Dead 2 should be off the list since it's basically a comedic remake of the first one which is also nominated.

I specifically nominated ED2 because it was basically a remake of the first one. The first one kinda sucked and the sequel was an improvement IMHO. It had some comedic elements to it but should still qualify as horror.

87. Army of Darkness


C'mon, it has to get it's due, no? "Hail to the King, baby"!!!

Now when they made Army of Darkness they pretty much threw the "horror" part out the window. It's one of my favorite movies not because it's scary but because I LMAO when I watch it.

[Heather19]

I generally don't know if we can define "horror" to universal satisfaction. The first definition that leaps to mind is, "a movie whose primary aim is to scare". This would leave out all films with a meaning, from Repulsion to Pontypool. If we define it as "inspiring a feeling of fear and disturbance during most of the running time", we'll have to include tons of dramas, from "M" to Apocalypto. Thus, we are doomed to rely on intuition only. If someone considers something a horror film, let it be.

I, for example, had to tie my own paws not to nominate The Tenant, which is, in my opinion, the best horror, drama, comedy, and whatever other genre one can think of... but I'd hate to see my favorite film of all times losing to something like The Ring, so I passed. Such considerations help keep nominations within reason, anyway.

How many of those on the list has anyone seen? My count is 84, and I am going to improve it before the tournament is over.

I've seen at least 90 (possibly another 1 or 2 that I don't remember too well).

I think everyone has a different interpretation of horror. There's some that are even listed as horror, that I personally would never put in that category. Repulsion, The Tenant, Whatever Happened to Baby Jane... They're psychologically dark yes, but a horror, definitely not by my standards. But slashers, like Halloween, Texas Chainsaw, Scream... would be a definite yes. What other genre would they fit into? Films can definitely blur the lines between genres, I don't think it has to be one or another. And it is interesting how different people see them. That's why I left it that if someone views it as a horror it makes the list.

[fernandito]

Yeah, this tournament was always going to be about broad strokes because of how subjective and varied the genre can be.

[Ricky]

I counted 46 that I've seen off our list. Guess I've got some watching to do.

[Merlin1958]

I know you want to drop the subject, and I'm fine with that, but I'm still trying to understand. I'm not trying to be combative. I don't consider there to be any supernatural quality to films like Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Under your definition, both of those films wouldn't be considered horror. I hope you can see how odd that might seem to others. I know you are classifying them as "slasher" films, but that's merely a sub-genre of horror.

I could see not counting Jaws, but Halloween?

Well, if you want a debate, and it doesn't bother anyone else, I'm cool with the subject. "Halloween" actually did have a "supernatural" element. He became the "Boogie-Man" somehow. Otherwise, how do you account for the amount of times he died through out the films. TCM I am not as familiar with so I can't comment. "Jaws" arguably had a minor supernatural element as something was definitely "off" with that shark!! LOL That's why I said an argument could be made for it. I just don't see it as traditional "Horror" is all. JMHO

For the record, I don't think I ever said "Halloween" wasn't a "Horror" movie. Also, for the record, this discussion has been rather intriguing in that I never really looked very hard at what I considered "Horror" and "Slasher" films to be. I just sort of "knew" if you know what I mean. Also, for the record, my opinion may be in the minority and that's okay. I bear no ill will to anyone who thinks differently. They are just as entitled to their view as I am. This is all just for the sake of argument is all. FWIW this discussion has made me look a little harder at the subject.

[Merlin1958]

I say Evil Dead 2 should be off the list since it's basically a comedic remake of the first one which is also nominated.

I specifically nominated ED2 because it was basically a remake of the first one. The first one kinda sucked and the sequel was an improvement IMHO. It had some comedic elements to it but should still qualify as horror.

87. Army of Darkness


C'mon, it has to get it's due, no? "Hail to the King, baby"!!!

Now when they made Army of Darkness they pretty much threw the "horror" part out the window. It's one of my favorite movies not because it's scary but because I LMAO when I watch it.

I hear what you are saying, but it seemed a shame not to include it on the list. Though it has plenty of blood, dismemberment, supernatural and scary elements as well as being perhaps, the funniest fucking "Horror" film ever made!! LOL

"What's that on your face"? LOL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmgJXUQloUc

[Iwritecode]

I counted 46 that I've seen off our list. Guess I've got some watching to do.

I'm only at 33.

Yet I’ve seen every single Nightmare on Elm St, Friday the 13th, Halloween and Saw movie.

[Ricky]

I saw Nightmare on Elm Street for the first time this Halloween and thought it was pretty bad. It definitely doesn't hold up, in my opinion.

And I still haven't seen Friday the 13th.

[Heather19]

Really? It probably is a bit dated, but I still love it. A few years back I went and watched the entire series, they get worse as they go on for the most part The original Friday the 13th is really good as well. But then again I'm very partial to slasher flicks, especially from that time period.

[Jean]

bears have started catching up! watching Cold Fish now. Something is telling me bears are going to love it.

[Iwritecode]

I saw Nightmare on Elm Street for the first time this Halloween and thought it was pretty bad. It definitely doesn't hold up, in my opinion.

And I still haven't seen Friday the 13th.

The first one was probably the best one by default. As the series went on they started giving Freddy too much dialogue. That’s why Jason and Mike Myers were always better. They never spoke.

The Nightmare on Elm St. remake was awful. Although I didn’t really mind the more recent Friday the 13th remake. The Rob Zombie remake of Halloween wasn’t bad either. I love the fact that he had Danielle Harris in it.

[mae]

bears have started catching up! watching Cold Fish now. Something is telling me bears are going to love it.

Sion Sono is amazing and so is Cold Fish. But it has no chance in this tournament.