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    Whose responsibility was Susan's death? As I see we have many types of opinions and I think it's a quite interesting question. And an important one.
    I hope we will get lots of posts and answers here you I'll add a poll, too.

    Was it Roland's? Was it his fault at all? Whose is responsibility?

    Roland would have understood.

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    In my estimation, the blame should be assigned as follows...

    1. Cordelia [she made the ulitmate decision to follow Rhea and castigate Susan]

    2. Rhea [for obvious reasons]

    3. The entire population of Hambry except Sheemie for participating in such a barbaric ritual

    4. Ka, for placing Susan in Roland's path

    By the way, yet another great question Letti.

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    The responsiblity was all yours, Letti. Why?? WHY DID YOU DO IT???
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?

    Roland would have understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    The responsiblity was all yours, Letti. Why?? WHY DID YOU DO IT???
    I was jealous.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    absolutely

    I agree with 1-3 of R of Gs list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    The responsiblity was all yours, Letti. Why?? WHY DID YOU DO IT???
    I was jealous.
    I knew it. The green eyed monster rears its ugly head.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    Roland would have understood.

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    There should maybe be a null vote for those who feeel it was some, but not all of the above?
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    I think Roland was completly innocent in Susan's death. I think it falls on Cordelia, and Rhea. I think the people of Hambry deserve some credit, but they were mislead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice View Post
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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
    He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
    He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.
    I think he knew it could be dangerous. I don't think he fully realized HOW dangerous or how wicked these people could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerribleT View Post
    I think Roland was completly innocent in Susan's death. I think it falls on Cordelia, and Rhea. I think the people of Hambry deserve some credit, but they were mislead.
    I agree with Tt-y on this one. Not Roland's fault.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
    He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.
    I think he knew it could be dangerous. I don't think he fully realized HOW dangerous or how wicked these people could be.
    He knew.
    Or more exactly he didn't want to know so we can say he didn't know. He was a gunslinger. He should have known but he didn't want to see it.

    But anyway I don't say it's Roland's responsibility, but I don't say he was innocent about it. He took some part in it.

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    Roland would have understood.

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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
    He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.
    I think he knew it could be dangerous. I don't think he fully realized HOW dangerous or how wicked these people could be.
    I think you also have to take into account that even though he'd earned his father's guns by this point, he was still a young boy. Young boys sometimes make mistakes that stem from not being able to foresee events that an older more mature person would. Plus they have a tendency to think with thier penises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
    He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.
    I think he knew it could be dangerous. I don't think he fully realized HOW dangerous or how wicked these people could be.
    He knew.
    Or more exactly he didn't want to know so we can say he didn't know. He was a gunslinger. He should have known but he didn't want to see it.

    But anyway I don't say it's Roland's responsibility, but I don't say he was innocent about it. He took some part in it.

    (poll has been just edited)
    He was a gunslinger. He was also a fourteen year old boy. He didn't understand everything. A young person in love can miss much.
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    What didn't he understand?

    Roland would have understood.

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    Ok, so perhaps blameless in causing her death, but not blameless in terms of not trying to prevent it? That's as far as I'll go towards putting any blame on a 14 year old boy, Gunslinger or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    What didn't he understand?
    For starters, I don't think he understood that her aunt would consciously offer her up as a sacrifice

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerribleT View Post
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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
    He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.
    I think he knew it could be dangerous. I don't think he fully realized HOW dangerous or how wicked these people could be.
    I think you also have to take into account that even though he'd earned his father's guns by this point, he was still a young boy. Young boys sometimes make mistakes that stem from not being able to foresee events that an older more mature person would. Plus they have a tendency to think with thier penises.

    We both made somewhat similar points at the exact same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerribleT View Post
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    So Roland is absolutely innocent?
    Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
    But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?

    In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
    He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.
    I think he knew it could be dangerous. I don't think he fully realized HOW dangerous or how wicked these people could be.
    I think you also have to take into account that even though he'd earned his father's guns by this point, he was still a young boy. Young boys sometimes make mistakes that stem from not being able to foresee events that an older more mature person would. Plus they have a tendency to think with thier penises.
    So if you are a kid you have no responsibility for anything?

    Anyway... as I have said it before. I don't say it was his fault but I can't say (simply I can't) that he was absolutely innocent.

    Roland would have understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    What didn't he understand?
    How bad things can go very fast maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brice View Post
    We both made somewhat similar points at the exact same time.
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