Roland's
The Mejis folks' (who let it happen)
Cordelia's and Rhea's
Everyone's from above
Someone else's - /let us know please/
It was ka
Noone's
Whose responsibility was...
Whose responsibility was Susan's death? As I see we have many types of opinions and I think it's a quite interesting question. And an important one.
I hope we will get lots of posts and answers here you I'll add a poll, too.
Was it Roland's? Was it his fault at all? Whose is responsibility?
Roland would have understood.
In my estimation, the blame should be assigned as follows...
1. Cordelia [she made the ulitmate decision to follow Rhea and castigate Susan]
2. Rhea [for obvious reasons]
3. The entire population of Hambry except Sheemie for participating in such a barbaric ritual
4. Ka, for placing Susan in Roland's path
By the way, yet another great question Letti.
well that right there strikes the hammer on the nail for my opionOriginally Posted by R_of_G
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem." -PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN, 1985-"We have two companies of MARINES running all over this island and thousands of ARMY troops doing nothing!" -GEN. JOHN VESSEY, CHAIRMAN OF JOINT CHIEFS
Funny that you'd put Cordelia as #1 here. I think she was a very weird woman but I doubt she would have put Susan to death if Rhea hadn't talked her into doing it. I perceived Cordelia to be a Victorian woman in a sense. She always blames the fact that they're not respected on Susan and I guess she always looked for a way to be respected and looked up on by the Mejis folks.
Rhea, on the other hand, is a totally wicked character who had decided she was going to embarrass Susan as much as she could in any way she could on totally arbitrary grounds.
The Mejis folks also had a lot of responsibility according to me. They were the ones who longed for blood in a way and put her on the cart. Cordelia is pretty much among them at this point in the story: she was rejected by the man she had come to love and her niece had betrayed her by having sex with a boy that she was promised to and that made her shameful. Someone needed to pay and it was easier to make Susan pay for everything than anyone else. I think that's why all the folks living in Hambry agreed on burning her alive.
Does this all make sense to you ?
In the end, I'd say they're all to blame and I would put them all in a category that is "People living in Mejis and the surroundings (that's for Rhea)" but I don't believe in ka so I wouldn't say Susan had to die.
The responsiblity was all yours, Letti. Why?? WHY DID YOU DO IT???
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
I was jealous.
Roland would have understood.
I knew it. The green eyed monster rears its ugly head.I was jealous.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
So Roland is absolutely innocent?
Roland would have understood.
Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
Roland would have understood.
But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
He knew how dangerous it was. He didn't know the end, that's right.But love comes with responsibility, doesn't it?Innocent of causing Susan's death, yes. All he did was fall in love with her.
In this case he couldn't know where his love would lead, so he is innocent of this entirely.
Roland would have understood.
I blame it entirely on Roland.
People say he was sure she was safe - but he shouldn't have been sure, that's the point. It an act of his free will to believe what he saw in the glass. He chose the vision in the glass versus his own good judgement, and that's where he is to blame.
He was a gunslinger, remember? He had been taught to believe his eyes, his reactions, his common sense and his perception of reality. He had never been taught to believe any damn glasses. The only two magicians he had seen by then were Marten and Rhea, and so he didn't have any grounds to expect anything good or right or true to come from magic. If anything, he should have learned to distrust magic and avoid it, but he happily succumbed to the glammer of a vile, lying thing.
He easily let go of everything he had been taught. He betrayed the basics of gunslinging, whereby he forgot the face of his father. He betrayed himself and thus he betrayed Susan.
It's only him that I blame.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There should maybe be a null vote for those who feeel it was some, but not all of the above?
I think Roland was completly innocent in Susan's death. I think it falls on Cordelia, and Rhea. I think the people of Hambry deserve some credit, but they were mislead.
It's stressful being an other. ~ Juliet
I believe there ought to be a Constitutional Amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. ~ Crash Davis
I agree with Tt-y on this one. Not Roland's fault.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
Agreed. I think that was one death for which Roland bears no responsibility.
It'll take a lot more than words and guns,
A whole lot more than riches and muscle.
The hands of the many must join as one.
And together we'll cross the river.
Puscifer, "The Humbling River"
What didn't he understand?
Roland would have understood.
For starters, I don't think he understood that her aunt would consciously offer her up as a sacrifice
But guys... hey, if we don't understand something we have no responsibility for the things that happen? I am sure you can't say that.How bad things can go very fast maybe.
I don't know. Maybe I am so strict because if I had been in Roland's shoes I would feel my responsibility, too.
Roland would have understood.
I think he felt the same way Letti. It seemed he never forgave himself for it.
Absolutely true.I think he felt the same way Letti. It seemed he never forgave himself for it.
Roland would have understood.
Yes, you would feel responsibility that is not yours. That is just guilt and remorse for not knowing any better though. Think of someone who is mentally deficient/handicapped (I hate these terms) but, if they commit a crime, but don't understand what they did is wrong is it their fault?But guys... hey, if we don't understand something we have no responsibility for the things that happen? I am sure you can't say that.How bad things can go very fast maybe.
I don't know. Maybe I am so strict because if I had been in Roland's shoes I would feel my responsibility, too.
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