I wasn’t suggesting they were. The point was some of the users playing devil’s advocate are the same ones who get upset and write lengthy responses to King saying something negative about Trump.
I wasn’t suggesting they were. The point was some of the users playing devil’s advocate are the same ones who get upset and write lengthy responses to King saying something negative about Trump.
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So in your statement you imply that you don’t believe women are a marginalized group? So therefore they have achieved full equality in society?Originally Posted by CyberGhostface
I wonder how many of the people suggesting we should just ignore Rowling for her using her celebrity status to undermine a marginalized group will do the same next time King insults Trump or Republicans.
Seems like an awful lot of effort to make sure that a bunch of people with dicks (cough cough, males, cough) get access to girls'/women's locker rooms and other resources (a dubious goal if ever there was one).
I remain so glad that this insanity didn't exist when my daughters went to school.
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You really need to educate yourself more on this topic. Go read some things and come back.
If I’m being honest I don’t exactly disagree with St. Troy. I worked for years in a hospital with a clinic for kids who believed they were transgender. They had kids as young as 5 (we all know who is pushing that decision). One of the tenants was that these kids be able to use the bathrooms they identified with. I can’t imagine subjecting my young daughter to a school or public place that would allow boys who believed they were girls to use their bathroom. I’m sure that would inflict some psychological harm on young girls not having a space to call their own free from boys because, although they might think they are girls, their genitalia says otherwise.You really need to educate yourself more on this topic. Go read some things and come back.
Thank you, Joe315, for providing the obvious response for which I was hoping, because...it is so profoundly ironic and amusing to be told that I require education by individuals that don't know what "male" and "female" mean.You really need to educate yourself more on this topic. Go read some things and come back.
Ever watched a nature show? Ever seen the lion with a big set of balls swinging? That is the male.
Education is when you learn that.
Indoctrination is when you "learn" anything that differs from that.
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When my girls were in school, I'd never have allowed it. Again, thank God this insanity had yet to take hold.
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It took me a long time to learn that there is a difference between sex and gender. And that in some people, they don't match.Thank you, Joe315, for providing the obvious response for which I was hoping, because...it is so profoundly ironic and amusing to be told that I require education by individuals that don't know what "male" and "female" mean.You really need to educate yourself more on this topic. Go read some things and come back.
Ever watched a nature show? Ever seen the lion with a big set of balls swinging? That is the male.
Education is when you learn that.
Indoctrination is when you "learn" anything that differs from that.
Hearts are tough, she said, most times hearts don't break, and I'm sure that's right . . . but what about then? What about who we were then? What about hearts in Atlantis?
So ... that King guy. On Twitter. Remember him?
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Based on the wording you used, I'm almost afraid to ask what happened to these kids.
Hearts are tough, she said, most times hearts don't break, and I'm sure that's right . . . but what about then? What about who we were then? What about hearts in Atlantis?
Has anybody actually taken a survey of (grown) women about who uses the "women's" room? In this day and age I seriously doubt many give a shit. Go to the stall, do your thing and out!
Or is this again just an argument by men trying to save us little ladies, like the pig-ignorant dumber than a doornail Texas Lt Gov who uses fear and hate to try to pass bathroom bills. I can guarantee we don't need your macho crap to protect us. More than likely some guy who goes into a women's room with evil intentions - some little lady is gonna blow off his male parts with her Walther. (Well, that's what I have). Little kids, maybe different story.
And to all the guys from 35, 40 years ago when there were really long lines at the women's rooms at the concerts at the Summit or Astrodome - thanks for letting us into your turf to go. And not ever a hassle when we asked if we could.
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A few more comments and then can we please move on.
Huh? When did you even infer that? (And if this some way to justify JK’s transphobia because she’s a woman and part of a marginalized group, that’s not how these things work. If a woman hates gay people her bigotry isn’t cancelled out because she herself might face misogyny.)
I knew all along this was why you and the others were playing devil’s advocate for Rowling but I am curious as to why you refused to admit you hate trans people from the getgo instead of wasting our time with this cancel culture nonsense.
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I understand the difference between SEX (XX, XY) and GENDER. It does not seem like you do. Sex is biological and Gender is a social construct pretty much unique to humans.Thank you, Joe315, for providing the obvious response for which I was hoping, because...it is so profoundly ironic and amusing to be told that I require education by individuals that don't know what "male" and "female" mean.You really need to educate yourself more on this topic. Go read some things and come back.
Ever watched a nature show? Ever seen the lion with a big set of balls swinging? That is the male.
Education is when you learn that.
Indoctrination is when you "learn" anything that differs from that.
This issue isn't about what lies between your legs. It's about what you identify as. There are people who don't identify with their biological sex and living as another gender feels more normal for them. Those individuals would like to live in that way without being discriminated against. It's similar to someone wanting to wear a religious symbol openly on their person but get discriminated against for it. You should be able to show that you are a christian, jew, muslim, buddhist, etc. without fear of being ostracized just for expressing that.
It is a very complex issue that is not a simple as letting a guy use a woman's bathroom. Honestly, I'd rather we not have to worry about all about identity politics and treat people as MLK wanted, by the content of their character. I don't give flying fuck what gender, race, religion, whatever you are. But I do care when people think it is ok to discriminate against someone because they are different than them (not accusing you of that btw, I don't actually know you). Similarly, I don't like when people use their gender, race, etc. to get away with something.
And that lion you mention doesn't know what gender is. WE have assigned a gender to it because we have big brains and need to catalogue and describe everything we come across. (Think of how confusing it must have been to see a seahorse give birth and be like wait, thats the male seahorse, what the fuck is happening?) Our big brains is part of what makes this an issue. We are sometimes too intelligent for our own good. We should be worrying about much bigger issues like not bombing each other and pollution issues, instead of whether or not someone with a penis and testicles can identify as female.
I do have an issue with how young some kids start identifying as the opposite gender and are given hormone treatments to reflect that identification. I don't think they have the intellectual capacity to understand transgenderism. And undergoing hormone treatments before their brains are fully developed (which doesn't happen until about age 27) has the potential to really fuck them up. Also, because of how gender roles can sometimes be experienced by children a girl who likes toy trucks and playing sports instead may think they are a boy when in reality they just like cars and sports. A boy who plays with a barbie and likes the color pink isn't a girl they just like barbies. Kids don't need to be asked to identify at that age. Let them enjoy kid things. As I mentioned in a previous post humans have the need to categorize things because we feel it'll help us better understand the world around us. Sometimes it helps and others it doesn't. Unless someone is hurting another in their pursuit of happiness we should just let people live.If I’m being honest I don’t exactly disagree with St. Troy. I worked for years in a hospital with a clinic for kids who believed they were transgender. They had kids as young as 5 (we all know who is pushing that decision). One of the tenants was that these kids be able to use the bathrooms they identified with. I can’t imagine subjecting my young daughter to a school or public place that would allow boys who believed they were girls to use their bathroom. I’m sure that would inflict some psychological harm on young girls not having a space to call their own free from boys because, although they might think they are girls, their genitalia says otherwise.You really need to educate yourself more on this topic. Go read some things and come back.
I'd guess that she is a woman.
I'd guess your are a man.
Wait....you're a girl?!
Now, if you can put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment, imagine your daughters were trans instead of cis. Would you want your trans daughters going into the boys bathroom, as they were assigned male at birth after all? Think about that, a trans girl in a boy's bathroom, where she would no doubt be treated with kindness and respect for her gender identity, because we all know how empathetic and kind teenage boys are in general.
This actually doesn't happen, no one is given hormones under 18. What they may be given is puberty blockers, that's very different, and fully reversible. It gives them time to explore their gender and maybe they aren't trans, which is fine. But what puberty blockers allow is if the kid really is trans, they don't have to go through the wrong puberty, and their transition and societal passing will be that much smoother in most cases.
Is that a legal thing or just doctor recommendation?This actually doesn't happen, no one is given hormones under 18. What they may be given is puberty blockers, that's very different, and fully reversible. It gives them time to explore their gender and maybe they aren't trans, which is fine. But what puberty blockers allow is if the kid really is trans, they don't have to go through the wrong puberty, and their transition and societal passing will be that much smoother in most cases.
The long-term effects of the puberty blockers aren’t yet clear either. The idea of stopping your bodies growth scares me. What is it doing to your body? Your brain? How of going to affect you long term physically?
That is true but there are always benefits and risks with pretty much any medical treatment.
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I guess by implication he means everyone who voted for Trump (i.e. 70+ million Americans) are the "bad" guys. Way to bring us all together Stevie! Vilifying the opposition. That's the spirit of reconciliation. I thought for a second there that he might be condemning those "super spreader" gatherings to celebrate Biden's election. But apparently the virus threat is over. It's a miracle. It was too dangerous to vote in person but not to celebrate the election results. At least according to CNN. And why should we doubt them?
This has been a strange week for King followers on twitter...
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Wow. I had missed this one. Beginning to think Old Steve is going completely off his nut. Is this an example of the spirit of reconciliation that was promised after the "divisive" Trump years?
You lost, you miserable self-entitled infantile fucker. Concede and get the hell out.
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