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    Default A Companion Reference Guide--DT.com needs your help!

    This project is looking for serious volunteers from all parts of the site--new members, old members and everything in between.

    Obviously any Dark Tower Fan Site worth its salt has got to have a way to search and reference the books in the series. We are talking about a site version of the concordance and book search all under one umbrella. Written top to bottom by the members of this site.

    This will be yet another amazing resource for information on the internet about The Dark Tower. This website has already established itself and that sort of repository so the tradition will continue!!

    A very large project that will take years to complete.

    Please only serious volunteers past this point--we need commitment to see this through.

    The Dark Tower Reference Companion:
    • A reference forum linked through Towerpedia! Not viewable from the site but accessible by all through said links.
    • "References" by person, place or thing. Then grouped into wiki "books" for easy navigation.
    • A reference mention for every article in the Towerpedia! Every person, place or thing that appears in the series referenced with page number and context.
    • A table of contents for each article grouped by book that will show other people, places and things from that book
    • People, places or things mentioned in multiple books will have an article for each book--grouped accordingly
      • meaning, Roland would have a reference page for each of the books--HUGE!!
    • Companion based on "references" to the people, places and things of Rolands world. Rolands entry would be other people speaking of him for instance.
      • This one we need to talk about because we need to create a standard for the structure of what we will put in here. Roland stopping to scratch his ass on page 215 in book three is too much.
    Obviously a huge undertaking my friends.

    The work will be divided into chapters. A member takes a chapter from any book and adds their name to the list announcing it.

    That member combs that chapter for references and writes them down.

    Then you give it to me or Daghain--very simple. We'll do the rest.

    First piece of criteria to volunteer is that you have a Trade Hardback copy of the book (see references page for ISBN number). Daghain will posts specifics. We all have to use the same "edition" of the book for this so we decided to go with one a bunch of folks might have.

    For instance, I have hardbacks only in the last 3...but I can choose a chapter from those if I like and get started.

    The second piece of the criteria is commitment. If you choose a chapter and volunteer, please follow through.

    You'll receive 1000.00 in site money per chapter

    Hope this makes sense, I am hoping Bethany can help me keep this first post updated with the list of people who here to volunteer and submit their chapter choice.

    Thank you!

    The Gunslinger:

    No chapters taken

    The Drawing of the Three:

    No chapters taken


    The Waste Lands

    No chapters taken


    Wizard and Glass

    No chapters taken


    Wolves of the Calla

    No Chapters taken

    Song of Susannah

    Matt: 12th Stanza: Jake and Callahan

    The Dark Tower:


    No chapters taken

    More on the Companion:

    Well, I finally came up with an example of what I am trying to accomplish. I'll add this post to the one at the beginning of the thread.

    FAQ on the Companion:

    What exactly do you want me to do?
    • All you have to do is pick a "section" of one book in the series. It must match the criteria above. Some books are divided differently, see the glossary page for clarification.
    • Let us know which one you are doing by posting or PMing anyone on the staff
    • Develop your system--an example of mine is below.
    • Begin with paragraph one, write anything significant the paragraph makes reference too (its actually really easy)
    • Make sure you keep track of page, section and paragraph numbers
    • **Hard part** --use a word processor to transcribe the paragraphs that contained a significant reference. (could take weeks)
    • Send that to me and I will do the rest
    Each paragraph that contains a significant reference will be added to its page. Please try hard on the spelling and stuff, it needs to be right.

    This is what I did, you don't have to mark in your book. I can get another one and its in pencil of course.




    This is the note pad I kept:




    This is a list of the individual references I found in that section (they are called "Stanza's" in the 6th book). Each of these will someday represent a Towerpedia! article with a link to its page that shows the reference for each book.

    Why are we doing this?

    Once this is done, we should have a visually search able index of each instance in which a particular person place or thing appeared in the books. By approaching it from that perspective, we don't have something that resembles flat retyping the book. Which we cannot do.

    This will index it by it. For instance, Black Thirteen will have a wiki page. At the bottom will be links to every place it was mentioned in the books. That is what we will create.

    Why so hard?

    See above

    Obviously, I am open to suggestions. I already have several pages of my section transcribed so I will be able to show you even more about how it will look in a week or so. Thanks to everyone who is considering helping with this project.

    Is there a lot of typing?


    Yes.
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    I can help with WaG.

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    You can check the references page in Towerpedia! for the correct editions. I verified the ISBNs last night.



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    Sweet! Thanks Daghain

    I am going to see if I have the right SoS right now
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    Yeah, if anyone has a different edition or thinks I have an incorrect ISBN, let me know. I'll take another look at it.



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    Drat - my WaG is the wrong edition. I'm trying to collect the US hardbacks though, so I should be able to help with this eventually.

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    Yeah, I don't know if the page numbers would match up. Hmmm.



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    "You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain

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    No, they don't. My WaG is the US version and it's different that way from my UK version.

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    Well, see how you are.



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    "You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain

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    Yes, superior in my European-ness obviously

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    AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! Good one!



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    And I'm not even drunk yet!

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    Try harder!



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    1hr and 40 minutes 'til pub time

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    Woohoo!



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    Back to topic: I have verified that I have the correct version of Song of Susannah

    I will be taking the 12th Stanza: Jake and Callahan

    I am really hoping people will check the first post and get involved with this wonderful project. I will post and example of what I am planning after I review this chapter.

    Also, I think this is a great opportunity to view the series from a different perspective--through its references.
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    I think putting up an example would help - that way people know exactly what you're looking for.



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    yes an example would be good i'll be ready to commit to it once i see matt's work and compare it to the chapter so i know what to make a note of and what to ignore. i'm assuming things would mean important things, or will we have a page dedicated to every time the word "shoe" appears?

    i only have dmg. i can't believe i have a reason to be disappointed about that. why are the first four viking?

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    I tried to use editions that are currently in print, and therefore readily available.



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    well dammit that makes too much sense for me to argue.

    i have the right versions of 5 & 7 (artist's edition of 6, i'm assuming that would be useless). those should hold me over for a while

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    But you should never feel bad if you have Grant editions.



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    true. i love my collection

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    What do you mean by trade hardback? Does that include 1st editions?
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    crap. i'm glad i read this thread.
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    Check the ISBN numbers in the references page of Towerpedia! - those are the editions you'll need to use. I tried to pick ones you could still pick up on Amazon.



    "People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard


    "You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain

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