The Stand - Let's Discuss! *SPOILERS*

**Randall Flagg** · 07-07-2008 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Can anyone post the French paperback cover of The Stand up here? All I can find are the thumbnails of the three-volume set and the artwork was so badass... can anyone help?

Send a PM to herbertwest

He is from France and should be of assistance.

**Jean** · 07-08-2008 12:01 AM

the French name is Le fléau, if that helps

Ryan: thanks a lot for understanding me again. It's not, of course that I thought anything happening in other countries should have been described, it's that whenever you read any Russian novel and almost any European, you get the feeling that the world is not limited by the country of the author's origin, while reading most American writings you get the feeling that the world = the USA, and the author has no faintest idea that anything else exists at all.

**KaLikeAWheel** · 07-08-2008 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Tiffany

I'm re-reading The Stand and I'm almost finished. I love it just as much as I did the first time only...

..I'm discovering that I really don't like Fran. I don't know if it's because I can only picture her as Molly Ringwald (whom I don't care for) or what. I really found myself disliking her when she and Harold first met Stu and shortly thereafter. It bugged me that she'd walk on eggshells for that little weasel but it bugged me even more that she'd allow herself to be 'owned' by him. I haven't liked her since.

And even when he made that remark about her being his, all she got was one line saying, "Nobody owns me, Harold." That was it. I guess I just feel like if I'd been in her shoes, I'd have had more to say about that, even if he is only a kid.

Maybe since I don't have any children, the self-preservation aspect of pregnancy is totally lost on me but I still don't like her.

Fran was never my favorite character either and I hate to defend her, but I think she is a bit more understandable if you consider her as a child of her time.

The Stand was originally written in 1978, and if Franny was 20, that would make her a child of the late fifties. Throw in the fact that her parents are older than your average parents, and she was probably raised more like a child of the '40's. This would explain why she put up with so much from her mother, and also why she didn't feel comfortable telling Harold off until she was sure she had a stronger man to...um NOT be owned by. I think she was much more of a damsel in distress type than a stand up for yourself women's rights kinda girl.

King re-worked and re-released The Stand in the 90's and did his best to make everything a bit more current, but to make Franny a modern day kinda girl would have changed her character just too much. Of course, that's just my opinion, and it's been a few years since I've read it, so be gentle with me.

Donna

PS, I always assumed "Rome Falls," was just a code word for them to release the plague everywhere...Like a reference to the fall of the Roman Empire?

**ChildofBodom** · 07-14-2008 02:48 PM

The end says Fran passed half the immunity to her child? If so, how come Lucy's, or anyone elses, kids live through the plague?

**Mordred Deschain** · 07-14-2008 02:51 PM

**sarah** · 07-16-2008 08:24 AM

just finished my reread of The Stand this morning. I read it in a record 17 days.

I know I'm a slow reader.

anyhoo...It feels good to have it finished. It always gets me thinking about what I would do in that situation. If I had survived in my town, what would I do? Mostly I think of hitting up the pharmacy.

**Mordred Deschain** · 07-16-2008 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by maerlyn

just finished my reread of The Stand this morning. I read it in a record 17 days.

I know I'm a slow reader.

anyhoo...It feels good to have it finished. It always gets me thinking about what I would do in that situation. If I had survived in my town, what would I do? Mostly I think of hitting up the pharmacy.

Ya, I see myself getting the dream. I have this funny feeling I would have ended up in Vegas. Except I would have probably stayed at home and grew a bunch of reefer and then got to lazy to travel.

**Darkthoughts** · 07-17-2008 01:10 PM

Yep, that definately would have happened!

**Mordred Deschain** · 07-17-2008 05:22 PM

**Randall Flagg** · 07-18-2008 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by Steve

Can anyone post the French paperback cover of The Stand up here? All I can find are the thumbnails of the three-volume set and the artwork was so badass... can anyone help?

**ManOfWesternesse** · 07-18-2008 06:31 AM

^^ that's pretty wicked artwork - with the glaring exception of Mother Abigail, who is *words fail me* !

*EDI* I question myself - That is supposed to be Mother Abigal, I assume?

**Mordred Deschain** · 07-20-2008 05:17 PM

so a good poll question would be:

Where do you think belong in The Stand?

A) Colorado

B)Las Vegas

C)Ingoring dream and trying to survive

D)Dead (Captain Trips)

**Jean** · 07-20-2008 10:24 PM

yes, it's good, and I have added it

**The Lady of Shadows** · 07-20-2008 10:28 PM

thanks for adding the poll.

i voted colorado. if i survived captain trips (which i think i would have - god knows i dream enough for about 17 people) i couldn't just stand by and watch evil take over. i think i would be having the mother abigail dreams. at least that's what i hope anyway. i like to think i'm a good person. but really, i wonder how many people survived the plague and then ended up in las vegas when they thought they were good people?

**sarah** · 07-21-2008 06:39 AM

I chose other. I think I would survive and hang around my town exploring the pharmacies for awhile. Then I would tell myself that I'm going to Boulder but I think I would end up somewhere like Cabo San Lucas.

**jhanic** · 07-21-2008 07:17 AM

I voted Dead. I've never been really lucky (and, actually, if I did survive, would that be called lucky?)

John

**Mordred Deschain** · 07-21-2008 01:57 PM

I just said Vegas. Jamaica wasn't an option

**bluelph24** · 07-21-2008 05:04 PM

i am considering purchasing the original stand. I have already read the uncut edition and i think i'll enjoy the old version as well. really, i'm just interested in seeing the differences. so, i'm just gonna ask, do you guys think it's a good idea to get this book? is it even worth my time?

i'm also gonna get the original gunslinger, but i already know the answer to the above questions for THAT one i'll get here, so i'll just purchase it anyway. and, honestly, i'll probably just get the original stand just because i'm a completest whether the consensus here is positive or negative. i geuss i'm really just interested in what you all think about the relation between the original and uncut stand.

**Odetta** · 07-21-2008 07:25 PM

I enjoyed the uncut version better... just because I LOVE The Stand and the more information I can get the better!

**The Lady of Shadows** · 07-21-2008 07:58 PM

i have them both, and have read them both. i have read the uncut version more often though. i say go ahead with the purchase. the more books, the merrier.

**obscurejude** · 07-21-2008 08:25 PM

I say hold out for a version of the Stand that is even more cut than the original.

**Unfound One** · 07-21-2008 08:39 PM

Ryan, maybe you'll like the comics?

**obscurejude** · 07-21-2008 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Unfound One

Ryan, maybe you'll like the comics?

I don't plan on reading them.

**The Lady of Shadows** · 07-21-2008 09:03 PM

ummm. perhaps you missed my previous post ryan?

here it is repeated: shutup ryan.

**obscurejude** · 07-21-2008 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by turtlesong

ummm. perhaps you missed my previous post ryan?

here it is repeated: shutup ryan.

I was responding to your post.

I repeat, wait until the stand is more cut than ever.

:beats chest:

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