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    Default To live well or to die well

    Somewhere quite long time ago we talked about this topic and I loved it a lot.
    Which do you think is harder?
    To live well?
    Or to die well?

    Roland would have understood.

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    I voted live well, because in comparison to the span of your life, in most cases, dying takes up very little of your time.



    "People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard


    "You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain

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    so did I, for much the same reasons.

    Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Anyway I think if we live well we can die well.

    Roland would have understood.

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    I don't know. We can hope to die well, and pray for that - the novena to St.Joseph goes, "I ask particularly for the grace of a happy death", and there's a Russian orthodox prayer especially emphasizing the desire to die a death free of disgrace. It's something to aspire to, but not to be taken for granted.

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    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    And what does 'dying well' mean for you, Jean?

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    first, it's that old slogan, Death Before Dishonor. I know it's teenagerly... samurai-ish... but very important to me nevertheless.

    next, I would like to die without becoming a burden to anyone.

    Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
    When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)

    bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I see, it's absolutely understandable, thank you for your answer, Jean.

    Roland would have understood.

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    I've only done the living part..so that's my answer
    Promise me you'll always remember: You're braver than you believe, stronger than you seem and smarter than you think.

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    How you lived will most likely be what you are remembered for, so thats what I chose. But, I find it very important to not die in a meaningless death

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    What's a meaningless death like, Brian?

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    Becoming something near the end, when you are totally forgotten and dismissed

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    Thats the fate of too many senior citizens I think. But its not fault on their part, more that of those who should be near and dear to them

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    Oh I see. I thought you meant to die as saving someone else or something like that.

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    Yes, and thank you for understanding what I ment Dark, I thought I may have written that a little unclear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letti View Post
    Oh I see. I thought you meant to die as saving someone else or something like that.
    No, I think if you die to save someone else, very honorable

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    Dude, I'm going out kicking and screaming. No joke.



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    "You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain

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    Hmmm, I'm not really sure how to answer the question.

    You see I'd consider dying with honor, simply for honor's sake (or to save face to put it another way) is slightly insane. I'm thinking of samurai committing seppuku as an example.

    On the other hand, dying with honor to defend a life changing cause or protest a life threatening regime (suffragettes or buddhist monks for this example) is still extreme, but it commands respect.

    However, not being in either of those positions, I would say to live well should be the aim. To lead by living example rather than to compensate with a sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daghain View Post
    Dude, I'm going out kicking and screaming. No joke.
    HA HA! That was exactly what I was thinking!!!
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    I don't know. Just last Sunday (not this one but the one before) my mother my brother (Raron) and I all went to a mass held in honor of the deceased members of the Knights of Columbus who passed away this year (my father was one) and the priest went on and on and on that it doesn't matter how good a person we are, we're not going to go straight to heaven, we're just going to suffer in purgatory a long time. So, if that's true - which I can't imagine because I believe that God is a Loving God - then I hope I live a looooooong time so that way I'll shorten my suffering more.
    I just don't understand that. I'm not trying to start a philosophical debate, but he said that we should all live to die well and that we will only be home once we have died.
    I think they are both hard; one just takes less time if we're lucky

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    Some priests are very good at scaring the hell out of the people.

    Roland would have understood.

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    True. But if that was true for all priests, I wouldn't bother ever going to church. I worry enough as it is!

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    Quite simply...I don't believe you can die well unless you live well first.
    The Awesomest fled across the desert and The Awesomer followed.

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    Well, there you go.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daghain View Post
    Dude, I'm going out kicking and screaming. No joke.
    Me also, they'll remember me

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