I am interested in your feelings about him.
Did you like him? Have you ever felt sorry for him ever?
Yes, I did.
No, I didn't.
I can't vote because...
Jonas
I am interested in your feelings about him.
Did you like him? Have you ever felt sorry for him ever?
Roland would have understood.
I didn't like him, which, IMHO, makes him a good villain.
He was a failed gunslinger who thought he was a bigshot, and I loved that he got his in the end.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
perfectly statedOriginally Posted by Daghain
I didn't like him, which, IMHO, makes him a good villain.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't care for the man, nor did he have my sympathy. He choose the path of evil, and thats that
He was a horrible punk-ass, I hate him. Great villain! So ultimately, yes I like him.
You're all just bigoted against the crippled.
"It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.
"When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah
OMGDidn't see that one coming!
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
leave it to CK
Anyway I opened this poll because usually I don't like villians. I am not interested in them, either.
But I liked Jonas and his character and I really am interested in his past. How he got those horrible scars. Stuff like that.
Roland would have understood.
Jonas was a very enigmatic character for sure. I would also love to hear some of his history as long as it isn't cobbled together for the sake of another story.
The man had to die of course, I am glad it was Roland that handled him.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
I feel sorry for how the failed 'slingers were sent west. In the end, that was a major problem for Gilead so maybe they could have come up with a different means of dealing with the people who failed.
But Jonas? No. To me, he was born a villian.
It was their major problem, but they could never have come up with any different solution, considering the status of gunslingers in their society. The elite was absolute, semi-god-like; the very attempt to join it had to be non-compromising. You win all, or you lose all, no golden middle here. You join that caste of supermen, or you are cast away.
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well put Jean, Said much better than I could have done
thank you Storyslinger! but it's only because I hate the whole idea of any elite so much, it gives me eloquence...
Ask not what bears can do for you, but what you can do for bears. (razz)
When one is in agreement with bears one is always correct. (mae)
bears are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And with good reasonthank you Storyslinger! but it's only because I hate the whole idea of any elite so much, it gives me eloquence...
Yes, Jonas was a great character (well done Sai King), but as said by many of you he was indeed evil.
As to the argument that he could have become a true Gunslinger had he bested Fardo... - I think not. Just look at how easily he was beaten by Roland when it came to killing-time. In the end Jonas was nothing.
Eldred Jonas forgot the face of his father and I was glad to see him fall under Roland's guns. I do think he was a well-written adversary for Roland's first ka-tet as I liked the idea of them facing a tet led by a failed gunslinger.
I think life is full of situations when there is no golden middle. That's one of the main reasons for the fact that life can be very hard. Not because people wouldn't like to have one but because there simply isn't.
I don't say that gunslinging is one of these things but we must see that golden middle is not always a way.
Roland would have understood.
I agree, some things are absolute. There are benefits but also very harsh drawbacks to those situations.
Maybe if you failed the Gunslinger test you could still be a cook or something?
And btw...do you guys think Suze was the first female gunslinger? Is that mentioned anywhere?
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
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I think she is. Somewhere Roland thinks to himself that he never would have believed the gunslinger's creed would be said by a woman.
And, potential gunslingers didn't HAVE to take the test. They could slink away quietly and become landowners or members of court or whatever. So they did actually have some kind of choice.
"People, especially children, aren't measured by their IQ. What's important about them is whether they're good or bad, and these children are bad." ~ Alan Bernard
"You needn't die happy when your day comes, but you must die satisfied, for you have lived your life from beginning to end and ka is always served." ~ Roland Deschain
Yes, I remember this also. I also think he says something about how natural and "right" it sounded.
I've said this before but when Susannah says the gunslinger creed in DT3 (via Frank Muller), it is AWESOME.
I think it shame itself was so big too that without sending them west most of them wouldn't have been able to stay.
Roland would have understood.
I agree, I think that even though there was a "choice". Being a Gunslinger that never took the test would be too shameful.
The kindness of close friends is like a warm blanket
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