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    Darkle \Dar"kle\ (d[aum]r"k'l), v. i. [Freq. of dark.]
    To grow dark; to show indistinctly. --Thackeray.
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    Tinct \Tinct\, v. t. [See Tinge.]
    To color or stain; to imblue; to tint. [Archaic] --Bacon.
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    He gathers shadow and shifts in the color spectrum. It makes one hard to see. When Patrick is trying to capture his image, he keeps shifting in the spectrum, which would be tough on a painter.
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    Good call Chris - I was coming in here to say pretty much the same thing.

    The example I was going to use was IT. There was a point where IT didn't know what form to take, and it sort of kept swimming in and out of shape, that's how I'd describe darkle and tinct.

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    Agree - it's essentially the ability/quality to be 'dim'.
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    Huh....I always just thought it meant that he meddles.

    Never thought to question it. You guys may be right though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OchrisO View Post
    Darkle Dar"kle (d[aum]r"k'l), v. i. [Freq. of dark.]
    To grow dark; to show indistinctly. --Thackeray.
    [1913 Webster]


    Tinct Tinct, v. t. [See Tinge.]
    To color or stain; to imblue; to tint. [Archaic] --Bacon.
    [1913 Webster]


    He gathers shadow and shifts in the color spectrum. It makes one hard to see. When Patrick is trying to capture his image, he keeps shifting in the spectrum, which would be tough on a painter.

    I've looked up the definition, but I was talking about in terms of the saga. I think, like I said above, that its more than just a color spectrum thing, but actually shifting in and out of various dimensions.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Yes, perhaps like Jack would look if you saw him just flipping into or out of the territories. Could be alluding to the fact that RF is simultaeneously on many levels of the tower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkthoughts
    Could be alluding to the fact that RF is simultaeneously on many levels of the tower?
    Well I was talking about Los' but RF/Walter/Legion too definitely.
    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    It could just be Tower-talk for having to go to the bathroom. If things had gone differently with The Chap, couldn't you just see him crawling his way over to his White Daddy and saying "Papa Roland, I gotta go darkle"?

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    "It's his eyes, Roland thought. They were wide and terrible, the eyes of a dragon in human form" - Roland seeing the Crimson King for the first time.

    "When the King comes and the Tower falls, sai, all such pretty things as yours will be broken. Then there will be darkness and nothing but the howl of Discordia and the cries of the can toi" - From Song of Susannah

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    It could just be Tower-talk for having to go to the bathroom. If things had gone differently with The Chap, couldn't you just see him crawling his way over to his White Daddy and saying "Papa Roland, I gotta go darkle"?

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    This thread is a pretty illuminating one. It seems to me that you folks have covered it quite well. I think that you are right, All_Hail:
    Quote Originally Posted by All_Hail_The_Crimson_King View Post
    I've looked up the definition, but I was talking about in terms of the saga. I think, like I said above, that its more than just a color spectrum thing, but actually shifting in and out of various dimensions.
    All that I can add is that I would guess that that does also apply in the cases of o'Dim and of It. (Not that I really understand how the different magics in King's books work.)

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    I always took it to mean , The ability to "facinate".

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    Quote Originally Posted by alinda View Post
    I always took it to mean , The ability to "facinate".
    Hadn't thought of it like that, but yes, that does seem to be a quality of those who "darkle & tinct." good one.

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    Yep, maybe like the ability to kind of..."glamor"?
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    OK my quick question. why dose eddie look right to see the sea if there walking north along the western sea? i know its just a typo but lets keep the Q & A going
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    That may simply be a typo or perhaps the poles are reversed in Rolands world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timtempest6 View Post
    OK my quick question. why dose eddie look right to see the sea if there walking north along the western sea? i know its just a typo but lets keep the Q & A going
    I have always thought that Roland's world is inverted - the journey from In World to End World - seemingly from center to edge - but The Tower is actually the center...

    At some point the "flip" has to be made. I think that it was during the "palaver" with Walter. Ages go by and the world(s) are turned inside out.

    In an inverted world the western sea would be to the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R_of_G View Post
    Think about it, the two characters it is used in reference to are Roland and Los. These are the two we all seem to agree are singular entities, without twinners, able to move between worlds as themselves and by their own doing in most cases. I think the phrase describes this nature.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkthoughts View Post
    Yes, perhaps like Jack would look if you saw him just flipping into or out of the territories. Could be alluding to the fact that RF is simultaeneously on many levels of the tower?
    I fall in with these lines of thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storyslinger View Post
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    It could just be Tower-talk for having to go to the bathroom. If things had gone differently with The Chap, couldn't you just see him crawling his way over to his White Daddy and saying "Papa Roland, I gotta go darkle"?
    I prefer to think I gotta go tinct...


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    ummmm....my guess is covered in shadow and shifting. I would say this also affects the soul in some form or another. ( a form of damnation, perhaps? or possibly just a karmic mutation. don't ask me what that means it just popped into my head.)

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    heh..I'm one of those people who pretty much gets what it's SUPPOSED to mean but for some reason the way the words sound it seems almost like it menas soemthing like sitting, waiting, thinking, tarrying, and having either great patience or procrastinating....but it's not the definition....that's just what i think it sounds like...

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    It refers to how Roland never goes on. He just continuosly grows darker, more shadowy, until he's simply a stain. It means he's stuck, In the loop.

    Darkle refers to his being about to go other places/whens, tinct refers to his being embedded.
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    but the sun works the right way, and that had to be the only way eddie would have known witch way to go when roland told him north. i think its just the magnetic poles that are in drift (it was a typo) 1 of meny
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