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    Walking Dead Season 11 is delayed and Fear The Walking Dead is stopping filming.
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    Wow, what a great episode that was. I'm glad we finally got that big comic moment, and actually improved upon and built up better, and they didn't remix it to be changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    Wow, what a great episode that was. I'm glad we finally got that big comic moment, and actually improved upon and built up better, and they didn't remix it to be changed.
    Can you do the part where you show us the piece in the comics that correlates to it? I really enjoy that to be honest with you


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    Yeah, I was planning on it. I'll do it in a bit in spoiler tags.
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    Here it is from the comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    Here it is from the comics.

    Spoiler:






    WOW. That is cool... just flipped with Carol... love it. THANKS
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    Yeah the timeline of events is quite remixed too.
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    The reasons why Hilltop is attacked and burned down the comics is because Beta find's Alpha's headless body and goes nuts for revenge. But in the TV show that was ordered by Alpha and then she was killed after. So instead of Alpha's death kicking off the war, it takes place in the middle.
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    Bad news for those of us still watching the show. The Walking Dead Season 10 finale is delayed. While the episode was filmed months ago, they were not able to complete post-production before social distancing and such made it impossible for them to finish. So this current season will conclude with episode 15 in two weeks, and then the finale will air whenever they're able to complete it. So it could air in 4 weeks. It could air in 8 weeks. It could air in 12 weeks. We just don't know.
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    Sad to see Michonne go. I loved her episode and how they made it look like she choose a different path. Finding Ricks stuff... brilliant. We will see her again.


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    It annoyed me. I hate it when they do artsy episodes.

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    What really worked for me was the alternate timeline stuff. It was a little silly how they did it, but I thought it was cool seeing what Michonne could have been. It kind of ties into what Judith told Gamma in the previous episode, about how different Gamma would be if she's met her people instead of meeting Alpha. Although I do kind of wish we saw Michonne actually Lucille someone new. Mainly, I loved the speech she gave after Negan gave her Lucille, where the show pretty much acknowledged for the first time that what they did at the satellite outpost way back in season 6, killing the Saviors in their sleep, executing them all for personal gain, was an evil, evil act. Basically, what Rick and Co did to The Saviors that night was exactly what The Wolves did to Alexandria that same season.

    The fundamental flaw to me in Season 7/8 have always been that The Saviors were the good guys. They were the ones who were repeatedly killed and executed by a group of people and all the while Negan is entirely reasonable about it. And none of the "heroes" in season 7 or 8 had clear motivations...they either all wanted the same thing (Negan Dead, Saviors Destroyed) or were just irrationally angry about the mess which is just the consequences of their own choices. I thought Season 3 was quite a mess, but looking back...at least the characters in that season had various motivations and some interesting conflicts and explored some moral grey area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattrick View Post
    What really worked for me was the alternate timeline stuff. It was a little silly how they did it, but I thought it was cool seeing what Michonne could have been. It kind of ties into what Judith told Gamma in the previous episode, about how different Gamma would be if she's met her people instead of meeting Alpha. Although I do kind of wish we saw Michonne actually Lucille someone new. Mainly, I loved the speech she gave after Negan gave her Lucille, where the show pretty much acknowledged for the first time that what they did at the satellite outpost way back in season 6, killing the Saviors in their sleep, executing them all for personal gain, was an evil, evil act. Basically, what Rick and Co did to The Saviors that night was exactly what The Wolves did to Alexandria that same season.

    The fundamental flaw to me in Season 7/8 have always been that The Saviors were the good guys. They were the ones who were repeatedly killed and executed by a group of people and all the while Negan is entirely reasonable about it. And none of the "heroes" in season 7 or 8 had clear motivations...they either all wanted the same thing (Negan Dead, Saviors Destroyed) or were just irrationally angry about the mess which is just the consequences of their own choices. I thought Season 3 was quite a mess, but looking back...at least the characters in that season had various motivations and some interesting conflicts and explored some moral grey area.
    Any thought what we were seeing in the squares of people being moved along that she was joining at the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by webstar1000 View Post
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    What really worked for me was the alternate timeline stuff. It was a little silly how they did it, but I thought it was cool seeing what Michonne could have been. It kind of ties into what Judith told Gamma in the previous episode, about how different Gamma would be if she's met her people instead of meeting Alpha. Although I do kind of wish we saw Michonne actually Lucille someone new. Mainly, I loved the speech she gave after Negan gave her Lucille, where the show pretty much acknowledged for the first time that what they did at the satellite outpost way back in season 6, killing the Saviors in their sleep, executing them all for personal gain, was an evil, evil act. Basically, what Rick and Co did to The Saviors that night was exactly what The Wolves did to Alexandria that same season.

    The fundamental flaw to me in Season 7/8 have always been that The Saviors were the good guys. They were the ones who were repeatedly killed and executed by a group of people and all the while Negan is entirely reasonable about it. And none of the "heroes" in season 7 or 8 had clear motivations...they either all wanted the same thing (Negan Dead, Saviors Destroyed) or were just irrationally angry about the mess which is just the consequences of their own choices. I thought Season 3 was quite a mess, but looking back...at least the characters in that season had various motivations and some interesting conflicts and explored some moral grey area.
    Any thought what we were seeing in the squares of people being moved along that she was joining at the end?
    Some people migrating. It'll either explored in the movies, there's a plan for a short Michonne miniseries, or we'll never find out.
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    I really fucking loved this last episode. I know some people complained about the Carol vs. Alpha dialogue in her head, but there were two reasons I liked it: got to see more of Samantha Morton, plus it called back to Chupacabra where Daryl was seeing Merle, which was one of the best episode of Season 2, and the episode even calls back Sophia's death alone in the woods. I also liked that they cut the whole Carol going off on her own to figure things out down to a single episode because it shows that she's grown...her running from things goes all the way back to her marriage to Ed as she used to run to that Shelter in Atlanta before ultimately going back. But she doesn't need to run now and there's nothing awful she's being drawn back to.

    The Negan and Daryl stuff was great. I am looking forward to a future where Negan and Daryl slowly become friends, bit by bit, because they could have a great dynamic like that. Negan in general is just such a dynamic character in his own right. I remember people in here saying they couldn't stand Negan during Season 7 and I said he's great, well, this arc of his is a big reason why I said he was so great, and the show is doing it even better than in the comics, which naturally don't get the same amount of time to devote to character development or tiny moments. When you think of Negan's debut and as the episodes roll on, he's just one big ol onion you're constantly peeling back the layers of and his redemptive arc is probably the highlight of the entire comic because in the comics he's so irredeemable with how he debuts.

    Finally, The Beta stuff was amazing. The reveal of who his identity is handled so much better than in the comics. It's pretty underwhelming in the comics...a cool concept that was just executed really poorly because it was just kind tacked on, but I can't discuss that now because spoilers. They've hinted strongly at Beta being a musician on the show this season, from him telling Alpha not to sing in the flashback episode and him talking about the song of the dead, not to mention the whisperer who sees his face and says his voice sounded familiar. But even going beyond that they've hinted at it. In Fear Season 5 someone (I can't remember who because Season 5 was forgetable) dropped some records and this was one of the records




    Who is clearly Beta. Though they didn't have a name for him yet obviously though this album cover in this newest episode is mostly the same kind of look.






    There is also a great foreshadowing from the start of the season where Magna is listening to records in Barrington House, and she's listening to Beta (he's actually singing a song written by Emily Kenney aka Beth)


    They've done a good job of make Beta's past part of the world in a way that feels authentic as opposed to be tacked on. And while it does mitigate the reveal, it also works so much better this way. I loved how he carried around Alpha's head and listened to it. Side note, the effects of Alpha's head were fucking fantastic. I loved the way he used his own music to gather up a new horde and the way he took off the part of the mask that Gamma ripped off and replaced it with Alpha's skin, which is just an absolutely cool visual and really let's Alpha live on through him. Ryan Hurst has killed it as Beta and this episode was his best work so far.

    Lastly, the Eugene going on a mission stuff. This mission is what sets up the final arc of the comics, and since the comics just ended nearly a year ago, it's just really weird to see the show starting up what was the endgame for the comics. The comics too blended various stories and while I liked the approach in the comics, it was also kind of a mess in certain respects. The show has one benefit in that the finale to the Saviors conflict happened in Season 9 and The Saviors are no more in the show, instead of tensions brewing throughout the entire Whisperer story and kind of coming to a head along with other conflicts and this Eugene mission story starting. They didn't outright say it in the show, but in the comics the city they're in is Pittsburgh and it's utterly deserted. I loved the slow intro to the new character (won't reveal her name) with her staging all those zombies up. It was one of the funniest things the show has ever done and the show is rarely funny so the comedy doesn't always land since the writers aren't skilled at it. It was deftly pulled off. I'm curious how the show will handle this new character. She was very contentious in the comics with many people disliking her (she grew on me pretty fast, others not so much), but as I said, this was the start of the endgame for the comics. She debuted in issue 171 and the comics ended in 193 so she was only in the comics for a very short time and quite a few new characters come into the comics after her. I am hoping the show will get to do more with her and handle her better than the comics did. Her character just didn't translate on the page like I'm hoping she will live action.

    Sigh, only one episode left until we get the finale whenever we get it.
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