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Oh heck yeah. I have always considered the Rose as the actual Tower in Keystone.

I loved how Roland said it could protect itself for the most part. I would have loved to see it actually doing...

That point about the stars is a very good one.

Yep, that is my take on it. Kennedy being a "gunslinger" was metaphorical only.

I never really got the impression that the rise of Rolands world was in the future of ours.

I'm not sure I'm getting my point across.

On Roland's level of the Tower, computers could have been developed in say...Roman times for us.

There is 0 reason to believe that their technology ran...

Bear with me, Matt. :unsure:

Why does it have to be an alternate world? Why would it's history have to be different? They only trace history back to Arthur Eld, but we know he rose 1,000 years...

I believe so. I think Rolands world is an alternate to ours that is very close to the Tower itself.

Its actual place in the time stream is irrelevant to me because its entire history would have...

:lol:

Good point, we could really say there was no time inbetween

I have a half day so I got a chance to look it up and you guys are right. For some reason I got the idea it never really happened. I am happy to know it did.

However, the final word on it in...

I'm just going by what Flagg told Mordred RofG--and I may have gotten it totally wrong.

He was laughing about how disoriented Roland was and the fact that he had duped him. One night I believe,...

Stress? :lol:

From what I understood at the end of book 7, he didn't age at all.

Although dropping Jake probably put about 10 years on him :couple:

Oops, I forgot this was in the book 7 thread, no need for spoiler tags.

From what I understood, when Flagg was relaying his adventures with Roland to Mordred, he said that the meeting at the end...

but wasn't one of the things we learned from Flagg at the end the fact that this didn't happen?