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My point remaining true that different stars equal different world. My other point also remains that I don't know, or care, if it's the same planet or not. It ain't the same world as ours much as it...

Agreed Woofer. As Roland says "Two. There are two hubs of existence." It's clear that that Rose is more than just the Tower's placeholder on that level. The flower IS the Tower.

of course it is, i made it :lol:

So I've been giving this one a lot of thought today. I think there may be evidence that Roland's world is most assuredly not our world at another point on a timeline. The stars/constellations are...

Because it's the one in which the Tower is the Tower. I'm down with that.

Made sense to me, and I agree.

i know how you feel. some of these big questions make me feel like eddie when he is just about to school blaine but can't quite get his mind around what he's thinking

Wouldn't that be the same thing? If our world is turns into the Great Old Ones than it would be Roland's. I don't think it is.

Right, but again, I think it was more to illustrate to Susannah that Roland was a lot more than what she may have thought up to that point, not to make any specific claims about JFK. Overall, I think...

Because that was one of Kennedy's nicknames. I don't think King meant us to literally believe that Kennedy served the White prior to the time of Eld in anything other than a figurative sense. He used...

I couldn't agree more Matt.

Agreed Matt, we are left to our own speculation as to the amount of time. The one time the 1,000 years comes up is when one of the Calla folken first deals with Roland and tells him the Fall of...

Same here. The only thing I thought Flagg faked was the skeleton, not the length of the palaver. Again, Roland aged noticeably between the start and finish of the palaver so clearly more time passed...

His hair got thinner and gray around the temples. Sounds like aging. I know there is no way to tell how much time passed while they palavered, but my understanding is that they did palaver and it...

So how did Roland age 10 years?

we did? roland definitely aged during that time, flagg didn't fake that. you've intrigued me matt, explain....

ok, then how about 19 years?

Since we don't know how many times Roland has completed the loop, it's hard to determine how many years Roland has been alive. It's been 1,000 years since the fall of Gilead. Who knows for how many...