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06-01-2016 09:54 AM
sharki69

Congrats Jon ! Cool proofs and stories
06-01-2016 10:03 AM
jonp

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Originally Posted by zelig

I'm glad I reminded you! And this would be one of those I-hate-you-congratulations moments! Good one there Jon. I too have never seen one for sale. Big congratulations!

Thanks Paul.

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Originally Posted by Roog

Interesting proof, congrats!

Thanks Rogier.

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Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller

Very nice! The last one I saw was 2/14 on eBay. The last one prior to that was 12/10 by Simon at Fantastic Literature. I think those are the only ones I have seen.

Thanks Bob. I wonder where all the other copies have got to?

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Originally Posted by sharki69

Congrats Jon ! Cool proofs and stories

Thanks Shac.
06-01-2016 10:28 AM
biomieg

I guess Ari and Jeremy received the UK FDNS proof for free from the publisher, as usual* ;)

Congrats, Jon!

*edit: meaning that at least two of the 77 copies went to Ari and Jeremy.
06-01-2016 10:48 AM
jonp

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Originally Posted by biomieg

I guess Ari and Jeremy received the UK FDNS proof for free from the publisher, as usual ;)

Congrats, Jon!

Thanks Michael. I wish I knew someone at the publisher.
06-01-2016 12:13 PM
NoAttitudeThisTime

jonp, regarding that last chapter titled "After" which seems to consist of stuff not in the published novel...could this be the fabled lost After the Play epilogue, or parts of it?
06-01-2016 12:29 PM
jonp

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Originally Posted by NoAttitudeThisTime

jonp, regarding that last chapter titled "After" which seems to consist of stuff not in the published novel...could this be the fabled lost After the Play epilogue, or parts of it?

The deleted Chapter 58: Newslog in the manuscript, of which the first page (page 517) is shown in post #2547. It's four pages in the manuscript of newspaper reports. I'm not sure what After The Play consists of. The After in the manuscript is the epilogue which is Chapter 58 in the finished novel.

EDIT: I hope that makes sense.

EDIT2: I've just looked at the TOC, After starts with page 517 so includes the missing chapter as well as the epilogue. Is Newslog the same as After The Play? It is a possibility.
06-01-2016 12:47 PM
jonp

If only I had found these deleted passages and the missing chapter before CD completed their anniversary edition. They may have been interested in them as extras.
06-01-2016 12:52 PM
NoAttitudeThisTime

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Originally Posted by jonp

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoAttitudeThisTime

jonp, regarding that last chapter titled "After" which seems to consist of stuff not in the published novel...could this be the fabled lost After the Play epilogue, or parts of it?

The deleted Chapter 58: Newslog in the manuscript, of which the first page (page 517) is shown in post #2547. It's four pages in the manuscript of newspaper reports. I'm not sure what After The Play consists of. The After in the manuscript is the epilogue which is Chapter 58 in the finished novel.

EDIT: I hope that makes sense.

EDIT2: I've just looked at the TOC, After starts with page 517 so includes the missing chapter as well as the epilogue. Is Newslog the same as After The Play? It is a possibility.

Since the epilogue in the published novel was taken from After the Play, it would make sense that the Newslog plus the scene with Wendy, Danny and Hallorann in your manuscript is After the Play, or at least some version of it. Maybe King wrote Before the Play in a second draft or something? According to sources, After the Play was lost over the years, so you might really have something there which could create a great stir in the King community. Maybe it can be validated by King himself? Yeah, CD would have drooled over this.
06-01-2016 01:02 PM
carlosdetweiller

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Originally Posted by NoAttitudeThisTime

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Originally Posted by jonp

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoAttitudeThisTime

jonp, regarding that last chapter titled "After" which seems to consist of stuff not in the published novel...could this be the fabled lost After the Play epilogue, or parts of it?

The deleted Chapter 58: Newslog in the manuscript, of which the first page (page 517) is shown in post #2547. It's four pages in the manuscript of newspaper reports. I'm not sure what After The Play consists of. The After in the manuscript is the epilogue which is Chapter 58 in the finished novel.

EDIT: I hope that makes sense.

EDIT2: I've just looked at the TOC, After starts with page 517 so includes the missing chapter as well as the epilogue. Is Newslog the same as After The Play? It is a possibility.

Since the epilogue in the published novel was taken from After the Play, it would make sense that the Newslog plus the scene with Wendy, Danny and Hallorann in your manuscript is After the Play, or at least some version of it. Maybe King wrote Before the Play in a second draft or something? According to sources, After the Play was lost over the years, so you might really have something there which could create a great stir in the King community. Maybe it can be validated by King himself? Yeah, CD would have drooled over this.

In 1993 John McLaughlin consigned a large amount of King material to Pacific Book Auction Galleries and the auction was held on Sept. 23, 1993. Here is the first item in the catalog. I have no idea who bought it but the description with page numbers may be of use in this discussion.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps1lh6iygi.jpg
06-01-2016 01:05 PM
Ben Mears

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Originally Posted by jonp

If only I had found these deleted passages and the missing chapter before CD completed their anniversary edition. They may have been interested in them as extras.

That was my first thought. Along with the inclusion of Before The Play it would have been the definitive version of The Shining.
Thanks for taking the time and consideration to share these deleted scenes; it is much appreciated.
06-01-2016 01:11 PM
jonp

Thanks for the information, Bob. It must be After The Play as the four deleted pages I have are p517-520. Very interesting. The four deleted pages are called Newslog and the epilogue section is called Summer.
06-01-2016 01:14 PM
jonp

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Originally Posted by Ben Mears

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Originally Posted by jonp

If only I had found these deleted passages and the missing chapter before CD completed their anniversary edition. They may have been interested in them as extras.

That was my first thought. Along with the inclusion of Before The Play it would have been the definitive version of The Shining.
Thanks for taking the time and consideration to share these deleted scenes; it is much appreciated.

No problem. I found it fascinating compared the unedited and edited versions. I haven't listed all changes only interesting or major ones.
06-01-2016 01:14 PM
carlosdetweiller

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Originally Posted by jonp

Thanks for the information, Bob. It must be After The Play as the four deleted pages I have are p517-520.

Yes, I think so too.
06-01-2016 01:20 PM
NoAttitudeThisTime

Holy wow, so the lost After the Play wasn't lost after all :D
06-01-2016 01:38 PM
Ben Mears

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Originally Posted by NoAttitudeThisTime

Since the epilogue in the published novel was taken from After the Play, it would make sense that the Newslog plus the scene with Wendy, Danny and Hallorann in your manuscript is After the Play, or at least some version of it. Maybe King wrote Before the Play in a second draft or something? According to sources, After the Play was lost over the years, so you might really have something there which could create a great stir in the King community. Maybe it can be validated by King himself? Yeah, CD would have drooled over this.

This will just provide an excuse for another limited edition (PS Publishing? Centipede?)of The Shining that will finally be the definitive version!
06-01-2016 02:07 PM
Tommy

Simply outstanding. I really hope this can make it into CD's The Shining. Congratulations Jon!
06-01-2016 05:05 PM
dnemec

Great proof, Jon!

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Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller

Very nice! The last one I saw was 2/14 on eBay. The last one prior to that was 12/10 by Simon at Fantastic Literature. I think those are the only ones I have seen.

Wow, Bob, you must have incredible records!!
06-01-2016 05:45 PM
carlosdetweiller

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Originally Posted by dnemec

Great proof, Jon!

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Originally Posted by carlosdetweiller

Very nice! The last one I saw was 2/14 on eBay. The last one prior to that was 12/10 by Simon at Fantastic Literature. I think those are the only ones I have seen.

Wow, Bob, you must have incredible records!!

I bought them both so they are still in my collection. I have good records of things I have bought. But Mr. Rabbit Trick is the one that amazes me. He seems to have a record of just about everything sold recently, even things he didn't buy.
06-01-2016 09:34 PM
peripheral

Wow Jon, what an effort on your part. Thank you for this - very interesting.
06-02-2016 12:32 AM
herbertwest

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Originally Posted by biomieg

I guess Ari and Jeremy received the UK FDNS proof for free from the publisher, as usual ;)

Congrats, Jon!

I didn't follow the train of thoughts of why we were mentionned? ;)
06-02-2016 02:18 AM
biomieg

Because Jon said: "I wonder where all the other copies have got to?"

That made me think of the fact that you and Ari always get proofs from the publisher. So two of the 77 proofs went to you guys.
06-02-2016 02:27 AM
Brian861

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Originally Posted by jonp

If only I had found these deleted passages and the missing chapter before CD completed their anniversary edition. They may have been interested in them as extras.

Great, Jon. You have just set production back 2 years! (Teasing) :). Amazing stuff, my friend. And couldn't have fallen into better hands. So will you be retiring someplace warm after the book is released? :).
06-02-2016 03:26 AM
jonp

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Originally Posted by Tommy

Simply outstanding. I really hope this can make it into CD's The Shining. Congratulations Jon!

Thanks Tommy.

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Originally Posted by dnemec

Great proof, Jon!

Thanks Dez

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Originally Posted by peripheral

Wow Jon, what an effort on your part. Thank you for this - very interesting.

Thanks Antoni. It was great fun, it took me a day and a half. And then had to type it all up, as the computer didn't recognise the text and just came up with nonsense. I type a very slow one-fingered pace!!

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Originally Posted by Brian861

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Originally Posted by jonp

If only I had found these deleted passages and the missing chapter before CD completed their anniversary edition. They may have been interested in them as extras.

Great, Jon. You have just set production back 2 years! (Teasing) :). Amazing stuff, my friend. And couldn't have fallen into better hands. So will you be retiring someplace warm after the book is released? :).

Thanks Brian. When I received it a few months ago, I thought it was nothing special and just put it away in a cupboard separate to my proof/manuscript collection. I came across it the other day and thought I would post it to find out what it was, initially thinking it was not genuine. I only half-heartedly bid on it on eBay.uk, when it was relisted unsold. It was the lack of interest that made me think it was not genuine. How wrong was I?
Whether it will be included in the CD book depends whether Stephen King wants the edited material released.
06-02-2016 04:31 AM
T-Dogz_AK47

An awesome find, Jon!! Congratulations!!! :clap::clap::clap:

I have to spread some rep points around before I can give you more, but it's in the bank my friend! :thumbsup:
06-02-2016 09:21 AM
jonp

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Originally Posted by T-Dogz_AK47

An awesome find, Jon!! Congratulations!!! :clap::clap::clap:

I have to spread some rep points around before I can give you more, but it's in the bank my friend! :thumbsup:

Thanks Tim.

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