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I agree that it's a big difference between 10,000 years and millions, but just a couple of years ago it wouldn't even be a consideration. It may not really be that far off to clone a dinosaur either.
As for what the discussion is about, I thought it was about this billionaire that is allegedly trying to do this which certainly would include whether it is possible and whether he should. My bringing up the matters in my last post clearly were in response to your previous one. Discussions deviate from their original topic some in order to illustrate points. That is all I was doing. I mean yes, it could be thousands of years, but it really could be a week from now. How long it takes to get to that point isn't really that relevant. It could even be that we are there scientifically and we (meaning the general public) just don't know it yet?
Look, there's a big difference between talking about what's possible and what may be possible.
It was always aerodynamically possible for a man to fly in an airplane. It just took figuring it out, to do it.
But that's different from something that is probably not possible, no matter how much "figuring" we do.
See, but in retrospect everything we've ever done was possible through figuring it out. Science and time (great or small) turn the impossible (which I really don't believe in at all though I would concede it's somewhat improbable) into the possible. Most of our advances have come from turning the impossible (or improbable) through figuring out into the possible (or probable).
Anyhow there is not a shred of evidence to demonstrate that this guy is trying to do any of this at all. It is all rumor and speculation.
You're not understanding my point. Of course everything we've done was possible. That goes without saying. But some things are not, and never will be possible and I think this is one of them.
I think that's where exactly we disagree precisely. I don't think in terms or possible and impossible. I think in terms of probabilities which requires everything to have some possibility...even if that is an astronomically low probability. For me all things are possible. A deviation for illustrative purposes would be that I'm agnostic and find it extremely unlikely that most people's apparent idea of a god exists, but I still consider it a possibility, though one of the least likely ones.
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Even the best samples retrieved from fossils from millions of years ago are mere fragments of incredibly long DNA chains. I'd love to see a credible scenario in which it may, some day, be possible though.
I've never said it was likely. You said it was impossible. I only say that it's not. Nothing is. I would agree it's extremely unlikely. I simply can't conceive of the impossible. i'll share what I have found a little later. Now it's nothing that's going to blow you away and you might even know it already, but it is interesting.
Alright, then you're just getting into the ridiculous. Will we some day able to make people that are half animal? Maybe. Time travel? Maybe. Walking through walls? Maybe.
Obviously I was talking about what's possible now or in the near future with the information we have now. And as of right now, there's ZERO possibility of doing this even with futuristic imaginary technology.
Here's another example for comparison: We can see pretty damn far into the past with our telescopes--up to a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang. After that, the only way we could see further is if we could somehow see faster than light.
But with your logic, this may be possible some day. As is Harry Potter magic, morphing into other animals, delivering gifts to all houses in a single night and creating our own galaxies etc. etc.