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Originally Posted by
Brice
It's illegal of course, but that's never stopped our government. Lots of our laws including ones upheld by the supreme court are illegal...and of course the wording was left intentionally vague so they can do what the fuck they like. They should probably come get me NOW. I was fucking born beligerent. :ninja:
Oh look, I don't even have to commit a beligerent act. I can merely be suspected.
Detaining ANYONE including known terrorists for ANY reason without charges and/or a trial is unconstitutional AND against the international treaties we've agreed to, but ignore. Ooh can we ship the beligerent fuckers off to Israel to meet the Mossad too?
Not to be argumentative in any way, but the mere fact that the law is passed and then upheld by the SC makes it "Legal" not Illegal. However, morally speaking and in the original spirit of the Framer's intent they are "Wrong". Even though I am very "Conservative" in nature, I find it hard to understand why we can't hold the Federal Gov't to the same standards as say every other state enforcement agency, Hold 'em up to, I believe, 72 hours and then charge 'em or street 'em. While I understand that there are "extenuating circumstances is a good portion of these cases, the problem becomes the old L&O "slippery slope" wherein the parameters for holding a person get wider and wider. There HAS to be rules. We as a free society cannot abandon this fact. This coming from someone who traditionally gets P.O.'ed on anything 9/11 related. We have to uphold standards for all and not deviate. Maybe the current, and past, Administration's should stop pandering to certain areas of the public and commit reasonable dollars to the agencies responsible for protecting us. For example, Military funding is great, but maybe that is spending money on retaliation rather than prevention.
One of the most mind-boggling facts to come out after 9/11 is that of the (at the time) 13 million people here on student or work Visa's we only knew, as a Gov't where 10% of them were at any given time. The majority of those Visa's had expired!!! Scares the shit out of me that we are not doing more to make so-called "Illegals" live up to the law of the land. I am not trying to descend into a "Illegal Alien" rant. but there is something fundamentally wrong with our overall approach to this situation. No? Please, I am not trying to go on a tangent here. Rather than knee jerk reaction, I am saying that this entire situation needs very close scrutiny and informed public input from both sides and the middle of this equation. We just seem to throw shit at the problem with little or no concern for the ramification's. On both sides. A fair and comprehensive solution is sorely needed!!!
Rant complete.