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Jurassic Park
Terminator 2
Easy.
Same here. With Close Encounters of the Third Kind as an honorable mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by fernandito
I concur.Quote:
Originally Posted by pabloSame here. With Close Encounters of the Third Kind as an honorable mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by fernandito
Close Encounters
Jurassic Park
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Now Wall-E is going down. This tournament depresses me.
Ditto. Man, this was a tough one.Quote:
Originally Posted by frik
The trailer for A Good Marriage was released. Oct. 3 release date.
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You'd put Wall-E over Jurassic Park or Terminator 2??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattrick
Jurassic Park and Terminator 2.
Jurassic Park and T2
I wouldn't put it over T-2 necessarily but over Jurassic Park? Hell yeah. I mean, I love Jurassic Park, but thematically Wall-E destroys every single dinosaur on Isla Nublar. Themes are the quintessential aspect of science fiction. I can't give a spectacle, entertainment, adventure romp my vote over one of the most intelligent, thought provoking films of my lifetime. Wall-E isn't #4 on my top films from the 2000's for nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by fernanditoYou'd put Wall-E over Jurassic Park or Terminator 2??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattrick
Yeah but it's not just about the theme. If it was, Body Snatchers would reign supreme and 1984 wouldn't have been eliminated in round 1. At the very least (and sticking to this group) Close Encounters would be doing better.
It should be about theme, though. Science Fiction is about ideas, it was originated in the realm of ideas, it's children are borne from ideas..it's called 'a literature of ideas' for a reason. Compared to the novel, Jurassic Park the movie has so few themes you could fit them in a tic-tac container.
Jurassic Park and Terminator 2.
Too easy.
This is where it gets difficult.
Terminator 2
Not that it really needs it, but no Jurassic Park?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean
He didn't like it from my recollection.
Hmmm, I think you're selling it a little short. It might not have as many ideas as it's novel counterpart, but the most interesting one is still intact - mankind and his arrogance. Mankind's hubris coming back to bite it in the ass - no pun intended - is one of the most interesting themes I think, in this case embodied by the genetically engineered dinosaurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattrick
And since we're voting on a visual medium, and Jurassic Park is one of the most visually heralded films of pretty much ever, I see nothing wrong with it emerging from this group.
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Originally Posted by pabloNot that it really needs it, but no Jurassic Park?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jean
Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattrick
Wall-E is full of Mankind's hubris biting it in it's ass: overconsumption, capitalism self-destructing, corporate government, reliance on machines and technology, consumer waste, razing of resources...all things things not only lead to the end of human life on earth but turn humanity into a gelatinous, docile and technologically controlled organism. And visually Wall-E is one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. I think on both aspects Wall-E is a superior film, the only thing Wall-E doesn't have is Goldblum lol. Wall-E is a great science fiction film and I hope it's not being short changed here because it's an animated/family film. I think there is more themes and amazing imagery in the opening couple minutes of Wall-E than the whole of Jurassic Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by fernanditoHmmm, I think you're selling it a little short. It might not have as many ideas as it's novel counterpart, but the most interesting one is still intact - mankind and his arrogance. Mankind's hubris coming back to bite it in the ass - no pun intended - is one of the most interesting themes I think, in this case embodied by the genetically engineered dinosaurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattrick
And since we're voting on a visual medium, and Jurassic Park is one of the most visually heralded films of pretty much ever, I see nothing wrong with it emerging from this group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLx_7wEmwms
Hearty endorsement! I don't remember getting all of that from Wall-E but then again I didn't get to watch it in optimum conditions (lots of people around, talking, joints being passed etc.,)
I'll give it another go soon.
That clip is not the clip I was looking for...same droid though! lol
I didn't think it was possible for a film to have so much commentary but it's everywhere in Wall-E. The scene I was looking for was just Wall-E moving through a city and it tells the entire story of what happened to the planet in the background. It's quite astounding. I love Jurassic Park, I just think Wall-E is a much better science fiction film in general, dystopian themes, subjugation by machines, political statements, space travel, artificial intelligence and robots..it's got everything except time travel and alternate dimensions lol. You should give it another go, it's a marvel of filmmaking. An interesting thing is that Pixar had the idea for Wall-E before Toy Story back in the early 90's but they wanted to wait until technology advanced enough to make it how they wanted to.
Not in this plane of existence or any other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattrick
I agree with most of what you said about Wall-E. The first half of that film is fantastic. However, the second half doesn't come close to matching the level of greatness that is the first half. I feel that when the humans were introduced, the film lost something for me.
Jurassic Park is just simply more entertaining. Wipe away everything else and it's the movie I will choose to watch every time over Wall-E.