Stephen King Collecting Questions

Question about prices for books with movie adaptations.

There was an interesting discussion in the eBay thread about how the IT trailer might affect a lettered IT on the market. I'd like to hear people's take on how an upcoming or released movie might affect value of collectible editions of King's work.

Obviously I can see how the release of IT part two would increase sales of trade copies, as people who liked the movie would want to read the book. Similarly, I can see how some fraction of that group would want to acquire a nice edition, such as the CD gift edition, perhaps a 1/1 if they can get one, or even the signed numbered CD edition.

But does a movie release affect the market value of a high-priced item like a lettered edition? I would expect anyone willing to drop $5K+ on a book is not a casual bookbuyer, but someone who is already a King collector, and unlikely to be influenced too much by the movie release.

Is that the case? For the buyers/sellers here, what has been your experience of this?

HBJ

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Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack

Question about prices for books with movie adaptations.

There was an interesting discussion in the eBay thread about how the IT trailer might affect a lettered IT on the market. I'd like to hear people's take on how an upcoming or released movie might affect value of collectible editions of King's work.

Obviously I can see how the release of IT part two would increase sales of trade copies, as people who liked the movie would want to read the book. Similarly, I can see how some fraction of that group would want to acquire a nice edition, such as the CD gift edition, perhaps a 1/1 if they can get one, or even the signed numbered CD edition.

But does a movie release affect the market value of a high-priced item like a lettered edition? I would expect anyone willing to drop $5K+ on a book is not a casual bookbuyer, but someone who is already a King collector, and unlikely to be influenced too much by the movie release.

Is that the case? For the buyers/sellers here, what has been your experience of this?

HBJ

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IT part 2 I believe will not increase the books... like the 1st one BUT may even drop as I again... believe the market will be somewhat overrun. In general.. yeah movie's def affect value. IF they are good.. LIKE the first IT. Did nothing for the Dark Tower as everyone hated it. But if we get a "A-LA Game of Thones" with the Amazon series? Yes... I think the books will go up over the various mediums.

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Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack

Question about prices for books with movie adaptations.

There was an interesting discussion in the eBay thread about how the IT trailer might affect a lettered IT on the market. I'd like to hear people's take on how an upcoming or released movie might affect value of collectible editions of King's work.

Obviously I can see how the release of IT part two would increase sales of trade copies, as people who liked the movie would want to read the book. Similarly, I can see how some fraction of that group would want to acquire a nice edition, such as the CD gift edition, perhaps a 1/1 if they can get one, or even the signed numbered CD edition.

But does a movie release affect the market value of a high-priced item like a lettered edition? I would expect anyone willing to drop $5K+ on a book is not a casual bookbuyer, but someone who is already a King collector, and unlikely to be influenced too much by the movie release.

Is that the case? For the buyers/sellers here, what has been your experience of this?

HBJ

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Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack

Question about prices for books with movie adaptations.

There was an interesting discussion in the eBay thread about how the IT trailer might affect a lettered IT on the market. I'd like to hear people's take on how an upcoming or released movie might affect value of collectible editions of King's work.

Obviously I can see how the release of IT part two would increase sales of trade copies, as people who liked the movie would want to read the book. Similarly, I can see how some fraction of that group would want to acquire a nice edition, such as the CD gift edition, perhaps a 1/1 if they can get one, or even the signed numbered CD edition.

But does a movie release affect the market value of a high-priced item like a lettered edition? I would expect anyone willing to drop $5K+ on a book is not a casual bookbuyer, but someone who is already a King collector, and unlikely to be influenced too much by the movie release.

Is that the case? For the buyers/sellers here, what has been your experience of this?

HBJ

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IT part 2 I believe will not increase the books... like the 1st one BUT may even drop as I again... believe the market will be somewhat overrun. In general.. yeah movie's def affect value. IF they are good.. LIKE the first IT. Did nothing for the Dark Tower as everyone hated it. But if we get a "A-LA Game of Thones" with the Amazon series? Yes... I think the books will go up over the various mediums.

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I have to agree with you guys for the most part. I can't see the film having all that much of an affect on any signed editions. As you stated anyone willing to fork over $500 and up for a "special edition" would have to already be a King collector or a serious "Movie memorabilia" collector. It would seem to me that the film could cause an impact with those serious "Movie Buffs" on the more pricey editions, but beyond that it should pretty much go as HBJ stated. Just my two cents is all.

Of course, on the other hand, God knows where prices could go (assuming Pt2 is a hit) on the no doubt numerous promotional items guaranteed to hit the market. Who knows what items like balloons, action figures, dolls, special DVD's, posters, etc, etc, will catch the fancy of the movie going and horror watching public. That could get a little crazy, but I don't see it bubbling over to collectible books in general. If its as good as the first installment it will certainly pique interest in a wider range of the public in anything 'IT". lol

No expert here by any means but I can't see a movie, any movie compelling a non-collector to spend big bucks on a book. Especially one that just plan on reading because they found the movie interesting. I don't know about you guys but most look at me funny when I even tell them I collect books. And really funny when you tell them how much you've spent or that they are worth. We're a small niche in the grand scheme of things.

I agree with WB that folks will spend a ton on trinkets (memorabilia) if they like something. Whether it be movies, actors, celebrities, sports teams, etc.

Successful movies usually get a new paperback release with the cover depicting something from the movie. But as nobody buys paperbacks anymore, and publishing houses are all struggling, even these are losing to ebooks.

The success or failure of a movie does not usually effect the collectabilaty or price of a limited edition book. Its a totally different market.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit Trick

Successful movies usually get a new paperback release with the cover depicting something from the movie. But as nobody buys paperbacks anymore, and publishing houses are all struggling, even these are losing to ebooks.

The success or failure of a movie does not usually effect the collectabilaty or price of a limited edition book. Its a totally different market.

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Just for the record E-book sales are declining.

Full year 2018 e-book unit sales -7 percent on 2017 Traditionally published e-books volume tracked through NPD PubTrack Digital was down-7 percent for the year with 160 million units sold compared to 173 million in 2017. This is a greater decline than we saw in 2017, when e-books were down -5 percent on the prior year. Combining print book sales from NPD BookScan with e-book sales from NPD PubTrack Digital, e-books represented about 19 percent of total unit sales in 2018, a slight decline compared to 20 percent in 2017. For those keeping track, 2013 was the height of the e-book market at 28% market share.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit Trick

Successful movies usually get a new paperback release with the cover depicting something from the movie. But as nobody buys paperbacks anymore, and publishing houses are all struggling, even these are losing to ebooks.

The success or failure of a movie does not usually effect the collectabilaty or price of a limited edition book. Its a totally different market.

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Just for the record E-book sales are declining.

Full year 2018 e-book unit sales -7 percent on 2017 Traditionally published e-books volume tracked through NPD PubTrack Digital was down-7 percent for the year with 160 million units sold compared to 173 million in 2017. This is a greater decline than we saw in 2017, when e-books were down -5 percent on the prior year. Combining print book sales from NPD BookScan with e-book sales from NPD PubTrack Digital, e-books represented about 19 percent of total unit sales in 2018, a slight decline compared to 20 percent in 2017. For those keeping track, 2013 was the height of the e-book market at 28% market share.

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Just out of curiosity, are audio sales on the decline as well or is that included in your stats?

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Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit Trick

Successful movies usually get a new paperback release with the cover depicting something from the movie. But as nobody buys paperbacks anymore, and publishing houses are all struggling, even these are losing to ebooks.

The success or failure of a movie does not usually effect the collectabilaty or price of a limited edition book. Its a totally different market.

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Just for the record E-book sales are declining.

Full year 2018 e-book unit sales -7 percent on 2017 Traditionally published e-books volume tracked through NPD PubTrack Digital was down-7 percent for the year with 160 million units sold compared to 173 million in 2017. This is a greater decline than we saw in 2017, when e-books were down -5 percent on the prior year. Combining print book sales from NPD BookScan with e-book sales from NPD PubTrack Digital, e-books represented about 19 percent of total unit sales in 2018, a slight decline compared to 20 percent in 2017. For those keeping track, 2013 was the height of the e-book market at 28% market share.

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Just out of curiosity, are audio sales on the decline as well or is that included in your stats?

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That report didn't have audio on it. The year end Publishers Weekly had Fiction Audio up 7% to last year, that's downloads and physical copies. I can tell you it's all downloads, nobody hardly ever buys a CD audio book. (except rabid Stephen King Completists)

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I don’t know Sylvia So I cant confirm if that’s her signature or not. But. In my opinion opinion that is a great inscription and signature from king. Based on the inscription alone!!

Yep its good


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I believe it to be 100% genuine :thumbsup:

I acquired a very cool piece. Almost call it Limited... and well signed. Anyone have or have seen?

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I believe tippy4 has(d) one.

Saw a few of those pop up on ebay at the time they were issued. Very cool, Kris.

That's an interesting form of support, imaginative.

Kris
Super great!

Nice! I like it.

Very nice!

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I believe tippy4 has(d) one.

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I do indeed.

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Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack

Question about prices for books with movie adaptations.

There was an interesting discussion in the eBay thread about how the IT trailer might affect a lettered IT on the market. I'd like to hear people's take on how an upcoming or released movie might affect value of collectible editions of King's work.

Obviously I can see how the release of IT part two would increase sales of trade copies, as people who liked the movie would want to read the book. Similarly, I can see how some fraction of that group would want to acquire a nice edition, such as the CD gift edition, perhaps a 1/1 if they can get one, or even the signed numbered CD edition.

But does a movie release affect the market value of a high-priced item like a lettered edition? I would expect anyone willing to drop $5K+ on a book is not a casual bookbuyer, but someone who is already a King collector, and unlikely to be influenced too much by the movie release.

Is that the case? For the buyers/sellers here, what has been your experience of this?

HBJ

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What about the can of worms I am opening when mentioning multiple editions of the same title? True, the first edition of The Shining is valuable, but now with the more recent signed limited of the same comparable edition, that is valued more and people are wanting King's signature more with this signed limited, being limited. So the question then is, "Do the older editions lose some value because of the multiple editions being produced?"

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Originally Posted by Hunchback Jack

Question about prices for books with movie adaptations.

There was an interesting discussion in the eBay thread about how the IT trailer might affect a lettered IT on the market. I'd like to hear people's take on how an upcoming or released movie might affect value of collectible editions of King's work.

Obviously I can see how the release of IT part two would increase sales of trade copies, as people who liked the movie would want to read the book. Similarly, I can see how some fraction of that group would want to acquire a nice edition, such as the CD gift edition, perhaps a 1/1 if they can get one, or even the signed numbered CD edition.

But does a movie release affect the market value of a high-priced item like a lettered edition? I would expect anyone willing to drop $5K+ on a book is not a casual bookbuyer, but someone who is already a King collector, and unlikely to be influenced too much by the movie release.

Is that the case? For the buyers/sellers here, what has been your experience of this?

HBJ

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What about the can of worms I am opening when mentioning multiple editions of the same title? True, the first edition of The Shining is valuable, but now with the more recent signed limited of the same comparable edition, that is valued more and people are wanting King's signature more with this signed limited, being limited. So the question then is, "Do the older editions lose some value because of the multiple editions being produced?"

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It's a long and convoluted answer:


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What is the real story about the Hodder MISERY flipback book? I find the prices on Abe Books (the only place I could find any), hard to believe. Do they reflect reality or are the sellers dreaming?

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Originally Posted by ur2ndbiggestfan

What is the real story about the Hodder MISERY flipback book? I find the prices on Abe Books (the only place I could find any), hard to believe. Do they reflect reality or are the sellers dreaming?

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There is no market for these. The people who collect oddities like this already have their copies. The ones on Abe, or anywhere else, will not sell.

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Originally Posted by ur2ndbiggestfan

What is the real story about the Hodder MISERY flipback book? I find the prices on Abe Books (the only place I could find any), hard to believe. Do they reflect reality or are the sellers dreaming?

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There is no market for these. The people who collect oddities like this already have their copies. The ones on Abe, or anywhere else, will not sell.

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The same goes for most of the older Turtleback editions. Sometimes hundreds of Dollars which surely nobody will ever pay for.